For All The Wrong Reasons

Trump and the 16 dwarfs

Reposted from For permanence. ( I am again deviating from the ‘Michigan’ centric mission of this site for obvious reasons – JG)

The talking heads and putative conservative pundits have it very wrong.

A palpable fear of Donald Trump becoming the Republican nominee consumes the media from left to right. Fox host and debate moderator Megyn Kelly’s first question to Donald Trump “You’ve called women you don’t like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. On your Twitter account, your Twitter account has several disparaging comments about women’s looks,…” might well have been asked by Candy Crowley, or nearly any other left wing operative determined to ruin a GOP debate.

Kelly wasted Trump’s – and our – time by advancing the theme that ‘Trump is too brash, and says things that are hurtful or boorish’. By focusing on his periodic extravagant statements, perhaps she felt the viewers would be persuaded to abandon Trump and his candidacy. ‘The Donald’ can indeed be brash and say things that are both hurtful and boorish, but with 10 candidates to evaluate and a two hour time limit, it just wasn’t a productive line of questioning.

Kelly and many other talking heads who profess conservatism seem to think that ‘brash and boorish’ is a fatal flaw in Trump’s candidacy. Civil discourse, in their opinion, is the only acceptable path to the Presidency of the United States. Trash talk, such as calling people “stupid,” “moron” or even “disgusting animals” does not elevate the campaign discourse to the level they seek.

Perhaps our self appointed media censors should reassess ‘The Donald’ in light of our current predicament.

Americans are trapped in a serious, worsening predicament. Our Federal Government expands its dominion over our thoughts and actions every day, trampling our constitutional liberties with impunity. ‘Hope and Change’ has morphed into the destruction of our health care system, IRS political targeting, vexatious ‘pen and phone’ edicts, frustration of our domestic energy production, and subversion of our borders. America’s reputation is shot, our credit downgraded, and a man elected solely upon his skin pigmentation and baritone voice is promising ever more destruction.

America’s collective surrender to totalitarianism must be reversed in the 2016 election. The obsequious civility offered to our ‘Dear Leader’ by Congress and our Judiciary suggests that much of our government is in a trance. We are in the fast lane to tyranny; how do we restore constitutional government when our checks and balances have been paralyzed. More civility? What has ‘civility’ achieved for conservatives and traditionalists since 2008? Truthfully, an ever tightening noose around our necks.

In this first debate there was a target on the back of Trump with the opening salvo fired by Kelly, then further potshots from other Fox operatives. The splendid nerve of Trump speaking his mind candidly, with the restrictor plate off. As expected, a parade of aghast spectators are selected to offer their contrary view and back Megyn up. A morons’ choir on a bleacher operated by switch to tell us how they ‘feel’ when a candidate says something of substance.

The Luntz Group instapoll. What a set up. What a scam.

The Luntz charade that is rolled out during political events is designed to reveal the pulse of the electorate and provide an immediate response from a ‘select group’ of people to content, through clickers, dials, and (who knows?) anal probes. The anointed group, supposedly reflecting the post-debate opinions of our nation’s voting public, was shocked and distraught over Trump and his ‘visceral nastiness.’ Some were heralded as former Trump supporters who had some kind of epiphany. Not likely.

If you were in that focus group, with an initial affinity for Trump, then didn’t like what you saw, and then changed your mind? You are part of the problem. ‘The Donald’ gave you everything that was expected last night. He delivered all the goods and then more. No one with an IQ above room temperature would not have expected his candor and abrasiveness.

If you had a problem with Trump changing his past positions, you should have known prior to being shepherded into your viewing platform. If you didn’t like the way he spoke to Miss Kelly, you never knew who he was. Your change of mind suggests that you were previously enthralled with the man without having the slightest idea of what you were buying into. Perhaps you should stay home when the voting booths are open, or risk the hanging chad brigade interpreting your vote.

You just aren’t ready for democracy. Probably have a problem with salesmen as well.

Your need to be directed by talking heads as to what is proper. You are part of the neutering of this once great nation. I submit that Trump is indeed wrong in some of his positions, yet at the same time he clearly challenges the matriarchial mindset that is transforming our once rugged individualism into a passive, manipulated state of indecision. A mindset more befitting a monarchy, or a third world banana republic. Like many of us, Trump seems to regard pussyfooting around and wasting time with the arguments on civility as destructive to the arguments on how in the hell do we fight the bigger problem of a ‘loser’ government.

pollHe sees better than most that you only beat a bully by being a bigger bully.

This said, I am not a Trump fan.

I like many others do not care for him for a number of entirely different reasons. Cronyism, which he has acknowledged, is a serious problem this country faces. I don’t trust him on the abortion issue, I could really care less about his ego, and I just don’t think he is reliably faithful to people or ideas. These are important components of presidential performance.

But the way he delivers his message is impeccable, IMO. “The meek shall inherit the earth,” but today only brute force will wrestle the train that is the United States of America back onto the track.

Disagreements with Trump ought not be over the way he delivers his message, presents himself, or combs his hair. Castigating ‘The Donald’ for his bull in the china shop schtick is not likely going to turn anyone against him. People need a strong leader now, and phony civility is simply not a desirable or marketable trait. Efforts by Kelly, others on Fox, and all the other beltway pundits to derail or hurt Trump are entirely missing the fundamental driver of his early popularity. They will only improve his standing in this race.

People want a leader exuding strength. They want a bigger bully. They want someone who will be bold enough to tell wretched foreign leaders just how bad they are. They want someone to stand up for this country, and not cave to a global, we-are-the-world fantasy meme. Not too hard to figure out.

The pundits have been wrong on Trump. In fact, if one looks at the polling from Drudge this (08-07-15) morning, (see image at right) it doesn’t appear that he has been hurt in the slightest by their efforts.

If a small fraction of the effort expended trying to vilify the-man-who-fires-people for his ‘clownish demeanor’ were instead directed to challenging him on substance, the talking heads might get more traction. Not recognizing that we are now engaged in an existential, internal political war, wastes precious time. Polite Victorian manners are simply not penetrating the obtuse minds of our political class.

A losing fight looms because the rules of engagement are ridiculous. Decisive political action will not receive permission from our intellectual ‘masters.’

To hell with that.

We desperately need loose cannons; safeties off and blasting.

Time for the 16 dwarfs to get with the program.


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  7 comments for “For All The Wrong Reasons

  1. Mike Gillman
    August 10, 2015 at 8:45 am

    Amazing that an ego-driven clown is compared favorably to "16 dwarfs", ALL of whom have greater substance, moral stature, and real policy contributions to the campaign. Amazing also that alleged conservatives wrap their arms around a candidate who supports abortion, brags that he tries to buy politicians, and who appears unaware of the costs of doing those things he claims will be done in his administration. A real leader needs to be more than "really, really rich" and "really, really smart" (his modest self descriptions). He needs to take the time to craft policies for the national debt, foreign policy, etc, not just loud, vacuous slogans. Trump will embarrass conservatives who are drawn to a thought-free scream, will embarrass Republicans, and eventually embarrass the country if his behavior continues and is encouraged by angry but low-information voters. The prior article does include one important truth, when the author says "I just don't think he is reliably faithful to people or ideas".

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    • August 10, 2015 at 9:01 am

      Glad to see you are still reading. 😉

      The "dwarfs" are certainly evidenced as such by their immediate popularity. (as compared to the solid double digits Trump is polling) His actual intellectual record has plenty of time to be vetted, and as I have noted before will not likely result in him being the choice.

      Megyn Kelly, and Fox news however, failed the public by doing what you might hope is done more often; that is, attacking his method of delivery. I am pointing out that it is a mistake to underestimate the desirability of an outside influence who clearly enough states the problems, even while admitting to being part of them in the past. The way in which he does so, suggest to many that he won't back down like all of the milquetoast politicos who have allowed this president to run roughshod over us.

      If Kelly had simply avoided the Candy Crowly type of questioning and character attack,Trump may not have developed the still growing popularity he enjoys. SHE put the exclamation mark on what many see as the problem in the political and chattering classes; a weakness and effeminate denaturing of a once proud and masculine country.

      Everyone is a victim, right?

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    • Corinthian Scales
      August 11, 2015 at 11:02 am

      Maybe, just maybe, you and your bro need to park your skepticism and fantod nonsense, and take a real look at what is going on.

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  2. KG One
    August 10, 2015 at 9:49 am

    Playing Devil's Advocate here, there is one thing that should be pointed out regarding where everyone is at in the campaign right now: There isn't one candidate who has a thoroughly detailed "plan" (for lack of a better word) regarding exactly their position on a bulk of the issues.

    Actually, scratch that. There are candidates who do, but aren't going to be releasing something that detailed this early in the campaign.

    No one does that this early in the campaign or any campaign for that matter.

    Right now where a candidate stands on something is only going be made known only a little bit at a time from things like talking head interviews, and to a lesser degree debates, until that all-inclusive plan is finally released sometime in '16.

    I knew last week that the Fox debate was going to head south right at the very beginning when they asked all of the candidates on stage in the "headliner" debate on whether or not they will support the eventual Republican presidential candidate in the general.

    It's common knowledge that the base is way past fed up with mealy-mouth, double-talking professional politicians who wouldn't recognize the republican platform if someone were to repeatedly apply a lead-pipe copy across their skulls.

    A quick check at the number of people who stayed away from voting because they couldn't stand RINO's like McCain in '08 and then Romney in '12 will easily validate that statement.

    For the moment, I'm going to give Trump the benefit of the doubt and see where he runs with it. Right now, we've got Trump acting like Trump. So it isn't really a problem here. But the time will come for him to pullback the curtain and show everyone specifically what he has in mind to fix America. If he can't deliver, then all of his money won't be able to save him at that point.

    And the republican kakistocracy should take notice as well. If the above does occur with Trump and they use that opportunity to try and to jam through another RINO because it is "his turn" , or someone is cashing in some markers, then you might as well just turn off the sign and close up shop.

    Because just like when they paraded out Bush v1.0 and claimed that he was something when he really was not, people saw through that, got fed up and walked away/stay home.

    In short, you'll be helping Bernie Sanders win the White House.

    And given what Pres. B.O. has been able to steamroll through Congress in just the past year alone, don't think for a second that "republican majorities" in both chambers will save you from what Comrade Sanders has in mind.

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  3. 10x25mm
    August 10, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    Pretty certain that Trump's more controversial distaff-related comments are quite deliberate: a politically adept effort to portray himself as the 'antiHillary' in the Republican field. Outrage amongst the Establishment mouthpieces only further endears him to a broad segment of the American population - both male and female - who loath Hillary in particular and the Clintons in general. Another reason his poll numbers continue to climb, while most of the other Republican candidates' poll numbers relax.

    At this point, the only remaining question is just how big is the antiHillary segment of the American populace. Are they sufficiently numerous to deliver the nomination to Trump? Are they sufficiently numerous to then deliver the Presidency to Trump? The establishments, left and right, have unwittingly delivered this segment to Trump.

    Like him or hate him, Trump has demonstrated political acumen far beyond his peers and the establishment.

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    • KG One
      August 10, 2015 at 3:08 pm

      And those comments very probably are.

      The fact still remains that when the race begins to winnow out candidates, and these remaining begin to release their "all-encompassing" plan for repairing the republic, Trumps numbers aren't going to look very hot if he employs the Pelosi-esque "Well-you'll-need-to-elect-me-to-finally-know-how-I-intend-to-fix-things" argument.

      That dog won't hunt (and I'll go out on a limb and say that Trump knows this as well).

      Regarding the Hillary-Factor, if you would've asked me about six months regarding her chances at the White House, I would've responded that the job was her's for that taking.

      Now, her number are beginning to crater because of transparency and trustworthy issues, even a among her own base.

      You are not only seeing the results in the standing room crowds that Sanders is now enjoying, but by the fact that behind the scenes democrats are trying to get Joe Biden of all people to throw his hat in the ring, even going to far as to say that his late son is a factor in that decision.

      Getting back on topic, Trump's a salesman...I'll give him that.

      But, even Henry Ford eventually learned that you can't expect to have people keep buying the same product over and over again (case in point: Model "T") when your competition is offering far more than you.

      And whatever it is, it had better be good!

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  4. Corinthian Scales
    August 11, 2015 at 9:15 am

    Yet again, this fails to address the real matter at hand.

    Here is the actual quote from the debate:

    KELLY: Your Twitter account has several disparaging comments about women’s looks. You once told a contestant on Celebrity Apprentice it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees. Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president, and how will you answer the charge from Hillary Clinton, who was likely to be the Democratic nominee, that you are part of the war on women?

    What charge? I can find no record of any such charge by Hillary Clinton toward Donald Trump anywhere in the media. If she's said it nobody has reported it (and you know damn well they would as that would be news.) That is, Megyn made an intentionally false allegation and by doing so she leveled the charge herself, attempting to wrap it in Hillary's mantle.


    All this pious, pants-pissing horse shit has to stop. Either that or, wear the 'Team R' cuckservative identity with pride.

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