The result could not be even remotely legal, so how can the proposal go forward?
The name “Puppets not People.” Would be more apt.
Proposal 2 of 2018 is one of the most bizarre creations to be tested before the voting public. Several pages of changes to our state constitution without the benefit of a convention, and a significant change to state government through a vote where maybe TWO or THREE percent of voters will have a full understanding of the changes being made.
The Michigan Supreme Court failed miserably in stopping what amounts to a coup of Michigan’s constitution. It should immediately review and recall its decision, or face future docket challenges it cannot meet.
The mess this proposal will create is undeniable. Literally prepared for court battles, the proposal inserts language into our constitution that authorizes the commission to ‘prosecute’ the legislature for financial ability to defend itself against expected redistricting challenges. What this means is that unlimited taxpayer dollars will be used to fend off any taxpayer disagreements with whatever crazy apportionment happens.
This ‘clever’ bit of political takeover quite frankly takes the power AWAY from the people of Michigan. The Orwellian name ‘voters not politicians’ gives certain political influences (through social media and misinformation) more of a permanent grasp on the political mechanics, with little or no chance for timely corrections.
Once a plan is in place, it is 10 years before it can change, and by then you can make bank it will be permanent.
Presumably, the collection of people representing any particular district would be selected by amateurs, and political novices. What appears to be on the face of this a really bad idea, gets even worse when the very motivation for such a move is from those who cannot win elections legitimately, and simply wish to rig the elections in their favor .. permanently.
And then the very name Voters not Politicians, belies the fact that the current and former “politicians” are ALSO voters, and entitled to the same rights and opportunities afforded to those the group would pretend a special privilege. Simple election as a precinct delegate disqualifies you and your family from even considering participation, and the ability to protect your interests in the political process.
By eliminating the possibility of serving simply because one has been elected to ANY position, it creates a new ex post facto rule, as well as a new class of disenfranchisement and exclusion. Also it takes away the ability any family members to make the decision to participate for themselves, simply because someone ran for dog catcher.
Ex post facto, Fourteenth amendment, Due process, First amendment, all of which become violated by this proposal’s passage. Further it modifies several articles and several more sections all at once, something that can only be done legally through a constitutional convention.
How this proposal passed the smell test of ANY court in Michigan is beyond baffling.
It has the stink of the vilest monkey house at any zoo.
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You are absolutely correct in your assessments. When approached by these circulators, I'd say to them, it would be much more productive to challenge Michigan's Electoral College Law of winner take all.
Clement, and Viviano, have to go.
If last weekends convention is any indication, that might be a problem.
Given her "creative" jurisprudence, when Bolger approved Clement's nomination via voice vote, especially given the lead-up to that, even Little Stevie Wonder can see where the republican party's priorities lie.
Having as many R's on the ballot as possible, even when they are in name only, is all that matters!
And for Viviano, his term doesn't expire until '25, so short of him getting caught in bed with a dead prostitute or a ten year old boy, we're stuck with him until then.
You're right about the dago. He's safe for now. However, Bolger tainted the "*unt". * = cunt. Just for record.
Ron Weiser better get his shit together other than just whoring for money. The old kike should know that it's different, a last shot world now.
His Bushite tribe is not popular.
I could never figure out the Viviano appointment. or for that matter, almost all of Snyder's judicial appointments, to begin with. With Scheutte's LT Gov. pick, it so became clear--Engler, a deep state wanna be--been calling the shots from the get go continuing to serve up MI.
Zahra and Wilder, who have been solid conservatives on the Supreme Court, were previously Engler appointees to the Court of Appeals. Viviano and Clement were all Snyder.
I dunno, it sounds to me like when you talk about "ametures", you really mean *voters*. And it sounds like you're saying voters are too stupid to pick their politicians. Is that what you're saying?
No. I mean Amateurs. People who have little to no experience in politics, don't pay attention enough to be well informed, and therefore are susceptible to outside influence.
Who might be the outside influence? Lobbyists, foreign nationals who have a lot of money, out of state billionaires who want to 'mold' the electoral process, etc.
The way it would change the state constitution would be a disaster for both parties, and make a correction after implementation nearly impossible.