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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    MIGOP: Money or Soul?

    By jenkuz, Section News
    Posted on Thu Nov 25, 2010 at 11:30:00 AM EST
    Tags: Al Gore, Bobby Schostak, Jennifer Granholm, MIGOP, Nancy Pelosi, Rick Snyder, Ron Weiser (all tags)

    ~ Promoted for discussion ~

    With the blessing of the current MIGOP chair, Ron Weiser, and the new Governor-elect, Rick Snyder, Bobby Schostak is poised to become our next GOP chair.

    All across the state, new members have been elected to positions within the Republican Party, who came to the party through frustration with the system and the tea party movement.  They are all being massaged to support Schostak because, he, after all, raised so much money for the GOP in the last election cycle, and it is believed that is what helped put the GOP over the top.

    This attitude rankles tea partiers and campaigners for conservatism, especially since, according to the Detroit News, Schostak has given personal contributions "to Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, former Vice President Al Gore and Gov. Jennifer Granholm."

    The MIGOP has some work to do.  The convention in late January will most likely be as cantankerous as the last one, with the tea party factions all looking for a conservative to lead the party forward, and they will not go quietly into the night.

    What I see happening is that the moderates in the party, willing to accept anything to continue what they perceive as what they did right, pushing for one of their own.

    So, the GOP in Michigan has a fight on their hands, will we sit by and believe that money is the reason the GOP won?  Or is it because of the tea party that came in full force to elect conservatives, and where they failed, they will hold those that won accountable?  "Principle Over Party," was the mantra, perhaps that will be changed to "Money or Soul?"

    Cross-posted at jenkuznicki.com

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    Somehow... (none / 0) (#1)
    by KG One on Thu Nov 25, 2010 at 02:25:03 PM EST
    ...I told you so, just doesn't cover it.

    I am having more than a few friends complain to me that the GOP which has "learned its lesson" from past mistakes, is acting absolutely no differently than it did before their wake-up calls in '06 & '08.

    You're right, next January will be a really interesting month.

    You will either have someone step up to challenge Schostak (and infuriating the elites in the process).

    Or enough people will be turned off enough, so much so, that the elites will be dumbfounded as to where their support went in '12.

    • Not sure by Ed Burley, 11/26/2010 05:10:23 PM EST (none / 0)
    67-43 (none / 0) (#5)
    by Tom McMillin on Fri Nov 26, 2010 at 09:56:38 PM EST
    Ed - not sure what you're thinking the GOP in the State House, that was in a 67-43 minority, could have done (not to mention with a dem gov).  The Dems often wouldn't even allow me to speak on the floor, let alone ever take up one of our suggestions on cuts.  The fact that we and bishop's senate got budgets with no tax increases was pretty good.  when you have the gavel, you control what gets voted on - its that simple.  Now that we have majority in both chambers and gov, you're thoughts are more spot on -- the real test comes next year.  hold our feet to the fire.  we must cut 20% of the general fund budget ($1.6B) to avoid any tax increases --- that will cause many unions to strike/picket/name call, and all the rest...that's when we need conservatives to really stand with us and defend us...and if you don't see strikes/pickets/name calling from the libs, then you'll know we haven't done our job.

    The Job of State Chairman (none / 0) (#10)
    by mccarthy on Mon Nov 29, 2010 at 01:32:33 PM EST
    Is to help elect Republicans who are chosen by the Primary electorate.  The Chairman does not set policy, does not cast votes in the legislature, does not cast votes in Congress, does not tell the Governor which bills to veto, etc.  Elected officials are accountable to the people, not the party leadership.  People have some abscure idea that if we elect a "Real Conservative" as State Party Chairman that we will somehow change policy.  That is ludicris because a party chairman has now power to set policy.  His or her goal is, or at least should be, only to elect Republicans to office.  Activists who want more conservatives in office should work in primaries to nominate more conservative candidates for office.  The State Party comes in after the primary to help elect those nominated beat Democrats in November.  Ron Weiser did an incredible job at this with a great assist from Bob Schostak.  They did not decide to not support a candidate because that candidate was more conservative or more liberal.  They invested in places where we had the best chance of victory and the results prove they did an incredible job.  All of this debate on here is fun, but counterproductive to the real goal of beating Democrats.

    Here is a question for people... (none / 0) (#11)
    by mccarthy on Mon Nov 29, 2010 at 02:35:47 PM EST
    Who would be a better chairman?

    Candidate 1:  Isn't a firebrand conservative, but has the capability to build an organization and raise the funds necessary to communicate the conservative message to the electorate and thus is very effective in helping Conservatives win elections.

    Candidate 2:  Has demonsterable solid conservative beliefs but has no proven track record of building an effective organization nor the ability to raise the funds necessary to help communicate the message to the electorate.  

    Give me candidate 1 all day long. As for Candidate 2, I suggest that activists should rally 'round that person and get him or her to run for office.

    Like it or not, Conservatives won elections this year because the Republican Party was organized, was blessed with a gubernatorial nominee that did not need the state party to fund his general election campaign, the state party was so well funded that it could put massive resources into both Supreme Court races, an expanded legislative field, 4 U.S. House races, Attorney General and SoS races denying the Democrats any place to plant their flag.

    The result...A Republican Governor, massive Conservative majorities in both Houses of the legislature, Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, Attorney General Bill Schuette, Justice Bob Young, Justice Mary Beth Kelly and Congressmen Tim Walberg and Dan Benishek.

    A fired up Tea Party organization definitely helped, but was not the only factor that mattered. Proof of this is the U.S. Senate races in Delaware, Colorado and Alaska.  

    I urge everyone to not underestimate the importance of a well funded and well organized state party.  Do not let hubris get in the way of common sense.  The same people that seem to demand ideological purity in the next State Party Chairman are the ones who would rebel if any State Party Chairman got involved in any primary against their candidate or who told you what to believe.  

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