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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    After This Election


    By JGillman, Section Multimedia
    Posted on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 11:25:48 AM EST
    Tags: MIchigan, Dele-Gate, RNC, Prompter-Gate, Rules Changes, Backroom, Smoke Filled Rooms, Dirty Dealing, Republican, Elite, Power (all tags)

    The Republican party may be toast no matter the outcome of November's election.

    The antics by rules committee folks to hold power in the hands of a certain few are designed to keep a succession scheme working.  In Michigan, it was the DELEGATE scandal.  In Tampa it was what we see in the following video.


    There is an imperative to remove Obama.  Voting for Mittens and Ryan will be the only way this happens for now.  Mitt might well be a great president, and Ryan hold even greater promise to many.  However, the power struggle within the party makes a great case for those who would think about crossing over and casting their not-Obama vote.  It was stated clearly in a single tweet:

    "If this is how Republicans treat their own, what might we expect for independents and Democrats"

    Indeed.

    That video taped teleprompter was a Breitbart moment.  It was the truth for all to see. And it shows an utter disregard for the grassroots and their efforts to bring this country back into some semblance of what it once was. The thought that Republican leadership would do the right thing now a faded idealistic notion.  

    Conservatives apparently no longer have a welcoming home.  And that fact might well spell the end of the GOP after 2012.

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    by Tom McMillin on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 12:37:01 PM EST
    These fights/skirmishes have been going on for the 20+ years that I've been in politics and long, long before that.  

    Agema and Land were elected as our representatives to the RNC for just such issues -- we need to make sure they do their job.
    And the next state chair, who will also be a member of the RNC, needs to commit (before we elect him/her) to fight on behalf of the grassroots and conservatives.

    This is our party.  We need to fight for it...not give up.

    It's not anti-conservative (none / 0) (#3)
    by InksLWC on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 01:40:56 PM EST
    It's done to give more organization to the process.

    What is the point of Iowa holding a caucus if the delegates from Iowa aren't allocated to the results of the caucus?

    If you're not going to allocate based on the votes of the general public, why not just skip the caucuses and primaries that are "beauty contests" and simply elect your delegates at state conventions?

    A concern, but overrated (and GOP isn't ending) (none / 0) (#5)
    by Republican Michigander on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 01:46:49 PM EST
    I thought it was a stupid move by the RNC, equivalent to the spiking the football. It was concerns about a skirmish getting on camera. It's a concern, but it's overrated. The actual effect is not that big of deal because is essentially does not change all that much. Delegate pissed me off. This not as much. It wasn't needed, but the sky isn't falling.

    It's overrated, because in today's political climate, decisions are always - always - always - decided before the convention. That's been the case as long as I've been alive and I'm in my 30's. There wasn't going to be a hijacking this year. There won't be a hijacking in 2016/2020. Primaries (or caucuses) are where the decisions take place.

    The real power the RNC has is the push for primary schedules and windows for the elections and seating delegates. Even a lot of that is on the state level.

    The way to stop the bad stuff is to make sure we have good committeemen and good state chair and state committee members, and make sure other states do the same thing.

    It starts locally, but electing good precinct delegates, executive committee members, county officers, district committee and officers, and state committee members, along with RNC committee members. It's long term, and takes a lot of organization, recruitment of good candidates for those positions, and reaching out to swing voters that make decisions.

    Also, there's statutory members automatically on those exec committees. They are your county elected officials (or nominees). Those are important people and will always some of the power regarding county officers. That county commissioner race is important.

    I've been at this 11 years. Some have been around longer. Many have not. Most don't know how to organize. Most who do know how to organize don't know how to convince the swing voters and alienate them with takeover attempts and power grabs (or what seem like them), and airing stuff to the media. I'm probably viewed here is more establishment friendly than most posters here, but I say this as a Ron Paul 08 voter and a Santorum voter this year. There's battles to fight. There's battles not worth fighting.

    The answer is clear! (3.00 / 2) (#22)
    by LookingforReagan on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 01:37:41 AM EST
    Where is the problem? The answer is clear. We form a party of our own as I have advocated for many years. Even before finding the pages of this web site. If the gutless morons that fancy themselves as smart want to keep running candidates that we detest, insist on holding open primaries to ensure that when things look tight for their chosen golden candidate of the moment they can get their philosophic twins on the left to come over and help get the "proper" candidate across the finish line as they did with McAmnesty and Jennirick Snydholm that is fine. Leave that Geriatric Old Party to whither and die. Let rise in it's place a vibrant new party of Conservative ideas. The Rockefeller and Country Club types have made it clear for decades that we aren't wanted. Fine. They can't win without us. But then that isn't the goal. They are more then willing to go back to the days when Bob Michaels was House Minority leader with 135 Republicans in the House and a perpetual minority in the Senate. When the best that Republicans could hope for was to be invited to play golf on occasion and maybe a luncheon invite when some minor functionary was on the hill. Yes, the Republican elite longs for the good old days of defeat and irrelevance. When they could just go along to get along and be happy with the crumbs from the Socialist table of the Democrats. If that is what they aspire to then fine. We don't have to accept that. We can form another party as did the disaffected did in 1854 with the formation of the Republican Party.Times have changed but the Republican party refuses to accept and embrace those changes. From the Reagan Revolution to the Tea Party onslaught they refuse to accept the Conservative wing of this party. Time for us to go. To the comment " We will have no home." Then the time has come for us to go out on our own and build our own house.

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