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    Michigan House of Representatives Set to Vote on "Hate Crimes" Bill


    By Kevin Rex Heine, Section News
    Posted on Mon May 11, 2009 at 04:57:59 PM EST
    Tags: hate crimes, NGLTF (all tags)

    (Promoted by Nick... I tend to rebel against all things "Gary Glenn" but we shouldn't let the man's personality get in the way of action on "hate crimes" nonsense. Still waiting for the first legislation outlawing "love crimes," by the way.)

    This is an action alert from the American Family Association.

    URGENT!  Urge your state representative today to vote NO on House Bill 4836 ("hate crimes" bill).

    AFA-Michigan President Gary Glenn has alerted us that the Michigan House Judiciary Committee will hold a public hearing and vote this Wednesday morning (May 13th) on House Bill 4836, a bill to enact a homosexual "hate crimes" bill in Michigan.  A vote by the full state House of Representatives is expected to occur quickly thereafter, perhaps even later the same day.

    Violating the principle of equal justice under law, this so-called "hate crime" legislation would mean that a criminal who attacks a senior citizen, pregnant mom, or small child would be punished less severely - with a shorter prison sentence - than someone who attacks a grown man, if that grown man is involved in homosexual behavior or cross-dressing.  The notion that some victims are worthy of greater protection than others, especially if it's based on their choice of sexual behavior, is simply outrageous.

    "Hate crime" legislation has also proven in other countries and states to be a severe threat to religious free speech rights.  In Sweden, a pastor was jailed for preaching a sermon in which he called homosexual behavior a sin.  In Canada, a Catholic bishop was brought up on charges for writing in his church newsletter that marriage should remain between a man and a woman.  In Philadelphia, eleven Christians were arrested for reading Bible verses out loud on a public street during a "gay pride" festival.

    In Michigan, homosexual activists openly admit they want to see pastors and others who speak out against the homosexual agenda criminally prosecuted as "accessories" any time a violent crime is committed against an individual who's involved in homosexual behavior or cross-dressing.

    As the Saginaw News reported:

    Jeffrey Montgomery is calling out the political extremists and religious fundamentalists whose rhetoric, he says, has fueled a steady rise in hate crimes against gays and lesbians.  "We've seen an increase in vitriolic, vociferous, vehement, demonizing rhetoric against gays and lesbians," said Montgomery, (the openly homosexual) executive director of the Triangle Foundation, a Detroit-based (homosexual) advocacy group.  "The vocal anti-gay activists should be held accountable as accessories to these crimes because, many times, it is their rhetoric that led the perpetrators to believe that their crimes are OK." . . . If a criminal borrows a gun and then uses it to kill someone, the law considers the gun owner an accessory to the crime.  So, too, are the people who own the words that incite violence, Montgomery said.

    Or as the State News in East Lansing reported:

    "We personally believe that the AFA may support the murder of gay, lesbian and bisexual people," (openly homosexual Triangle Foundation Director of Policy Sean Kosofsky) said.

    One clear example:  The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force in 2007 accused Cardinal Maida of Detroit and AFA-Michigan President Gary Glenn by name of being responsible for inciting the alleged beating death of a homosexual senior citizen in Detroit.  According to NGLTF, Maida and Glenn were responsible for this purported "hate crime" merely because they were both prominent public supporters of the Marriage Protection Amendment approved by Michigan voters.  (Notably, homosexual activists' "hate crime" propaganda evaporated as soon as Detroit police announced they had found no evidence of any assault, and the Wayne County Medical Examiner ruled the man had died after falling and hitting his head due to arthritic paralysis of his neck.)

    If those statements don't make clear the threat to religious free speech, please take a few moments to watch this short video that explains what can happen if the Michigan Legislature passes HB 4836, the so-called "hate crimes" bill.  Watch this video and then forward it to others, especially your pastor.

    Contact your state Representative today - right now, before it's too late - and urge him or her to vote NO on House Bill 4836, the homosexual "hate crimes" legislation.

    Please forward this alert to urge your family, friends, neighbors, and fellow church members to join you in requesting a NO vote.

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    And the link between HB 4836 . . . (none / 0) (#1)
    by Kevin Rex Heine on Mon May 11, 2009 at 05:11:46 PM EST
    . . . and repression of religious free speech already exists in state law.

    Michigan Code Section 767.39 states: "Every person concerned in the commission of an offense, whether he directly commits the act constituting the offense or procures, counsels, aids, or abets in its commission may hereafter be prosecuted, indicted, tried, and on conviction shall be punished as if he had directly committed such offense."

    If HB 4836 becomes law, is there any doubt that homosexual activists can find judges in Michigan who agree that someone who speaks out against the homosexual political agenda is guilty of "counseling" and "abetting" the commission of a crime, and should be criminally charged as an accessory any time someone involved in homosexual behavior or cross-dressing is assaulted?


    Fear Mongering? (none / 0) (#2)
    by stevenstmason on Tue May 12, 2009 at 12:08:30 AM EST
    A claim is made that "'Hate crime' legislation has also proven in other countries and states to be a severe threat to religious free speech rights."

    But only one example in the US is provided in which some activists were arrested it's claimed for reading Bible verses. People get arrested for all kinds of reasons all of the time, not all of them for legitimate reasons. It's not right but it happens. Were any of these people charged? If one incident is all that is needed is to block legislation, should we also oppose any legislation covering rioting because it might be used against tea party activists? Last time I checked, the First Amendment is still in effect and it would protect any legally protected speech, no matter what the fear mongerers claim.

    No on 4836 (none / 0) (#4)
    by Eric T on Tue May 12, 2009 at 08:47:42 AM EST
    Amendment XIV
    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    hate crimes bills give one group more protection than another group. So it would be constitutionally wrong, and must be opposed.


    At the risk of sounding like a broken record... (none / 0) (#7)
    by leondrolet on Tue May 12, 2009 at 09:39:25 AM EST
    ...I'll make the same point I made last time this "hate crimes" bill was voted on: Yes, thought crime legislation is a very, very bad idea. I encourage every legislator to vote against this bill. I opposed similar proposed legislation when I was in the House.

    Having said that, where was the opposition to "hate crime" legislation when it included just race or ethnicity? Where was our hero, Gary Glenn? Jason makes great points about the double standard that exits with current ethnic intimidation laws.

    This proposed "hate crime" law should be opposed on the grounds that it violates our constitutional guarantee of equal treatment under the law and it is a violation of the First Amendment.

    It's a shame that too few cared until the law was proposed to be expanded to include sexual orientation. When Republicans ignore the principles of equality under the law and selectively invoke those principles only when the issue involves gay people, observers will draw conclusions.

    GOP leaders should have been out front on issues like the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative. Instead most GOP "leaders" denounced it, afraid of being called "racist". Gary Glenn was silent on the MCRI, of course.

    (Grassroots activists and conservative bloggers have a much clearer conscience. They mostly supported MCRI.)

    Response from Rep. Dave Hildenbrand (none / 0) (#21)
    by Kevin Rex Heine on Mon May 18, 2009 at 01:18:46 PM EST
    Now I haven't been following this bill's progress, but I did get a response from Representative Hildenbrand to my concerns regarding this bill.  I copy it here for reference:

    Thank you for your recent email regarding your opposition to House Bill 4836, the so-called "hate crime" legislation.  I agree with the points you made in your email, especially about treating all crimes equally, no matter who they are committed upon.  You should know there are a number of amendments being offered to make the bill better (so all victims are treated the same), but as currently written I am opposed to the legislation.

    Sincerely,

    Dave Hildenbrand
    State Representative - District 86

    Just because I'm curious, does anyone happen to know the current state of this bill?  So far as I know, it hasn't passed in the House . . . yet.


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