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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    If global warming is a hoax.


    By jenkuz, Section News
    Posted on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:42:23 AM EST
    Tags: climategate, Michigan, industry, global warming, coal, oil (all tags)

    Over a week ago, the leading climate research institution, the Hadley Climate Research Unit (CRU) was compromised by an email hacker.  The hacked emails exposed some of the most nefarious cover-ups in climate research, one of which namely, that the earth has been cooling for the past ten years.

    The public has been steadily becoming more skeptical of the idea of global warming, not from arguments from leading skeptics, but from their experience with nature.

    So, put another way, if most of the public were told that the climate experts were messing with the numbers to make sure that millions of important people across the globe won't lose money on their investment of green technology, most of the public would say, "figures."

    That is what is happening.

    But, just for fun, let's think about what would happen if global warming was able to be proved wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt, and that man hasn't the power to change the earth's climate.

       1. Electricity would be cheap.  Some restrictions on coal plants would still be in place due to the concern of pollution and smog, but the production of electricity would be easier to attain at low cost.  From studying the Rogers City Coal Plant story, I know that it is the global warming mass hysteria that is causing electricity manufacturers to worry about their bottom line and feasibility.  It is especially hard for those companies right now because the full force of the United States Government buys into the hysteria and is an obstacle between the producers and the consumers.
       2. Automobiles would be more safe and less expensive.  CAFE standards are the biggest restriction on auto manufacturing and with the global warming hysteria, it has gotten so bad, the whole industry is on life support.  Every fuel economy standard that descends from the government on high clamps down harder and harder on the manufacturers.   The laws of physics demand that to increase fuel efficiency, the vehicle made must be lighter, therefore, less steel exists between you and an oncoming vehicle.  Every emissions directive from the government is given supposedly to "save the environment," when in fact the inclusion of hybrid and ethanol-so called `greener' advances-adds thousands of dollars to the vehicle.
       3. Oil and gas would be cheap.  After all, the restrictions placed on domestic supplies of oil and coal and natural gas, although originally placed because of a fear of "mangling the environment for greed," are now said to be off limits because green technology will replace oil, coal and gas.  The global warming fanatics said that the burning of oil, coal and natural gas creates increased levels of CO2 which is the main green house gas that causes global warming.

    Of course there are more things that would improve if global warming were seen to be the hoax it is, but these "Big 3″ are killing Michigan right now.

    It seems funny to me that the very simple, "what if you are wrong?" introspection has escaped the leaders of global warming hysteria.  In fact, if these hacked emails prove to show enough evidence (and I believe they do) to warrant a complete and total backtracking of all science on the subject, then more investigation must be demanded.

    I know this will take pressure like no one has ever seen before, after all, our children are taught in school that global warming is a fact, not a theory, and they are graded on their internalization of the science behind it.  What would it look like if all the teachers and textbooks had to change everything they have been teaching?

    But, just think, if the globe has been cooling and we haven't been doing a darn thing about it.......

    I have posted on my blog with the help of Dave Hatter many, many links about climategate.

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    Global Warming (none / 0) (#4)
    by Rougman on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 02:03:29 PM EST
    I am so glad the CRU was exposed for the malevolent world socialists they are.  That it happened just prior to Copenhagen makes it extra delicious.  

    Of course, you are intentionally missing a major impact if global warming were proven to be false...the unemployment of thousands upon thousands of climate alarmists who live on the teat of this multibillion dollar a year industry financed by the taxpayers.  

    For the children, and the scientists!

    Union guys (none / 0) (#5)
    by jenkuz on Tue Dec 01, 2009 at 08:39:51 AM EST
    "Sadly the non thinkers in the unions who support these folks wouldn't let the slimy little detail of lost employment and a destroyed manufacturing sector deter them from bringing about even greater "change" by electing the "same" Elites to power. "

    Dern tootin', but I feel if we keep pounding and pounding through solid rock, eventually we will break through.  Gotta become a broken record on--union elites win, little guy loses.

    A collection of inconvenient facts... (none / 0) (#6)
    by pauldpeterson on Tue Dec 01, 2009 at 09:48:40 AM EST
    Before these same political hacks on the Left were fearmongering global warming, they were warning us of an ice-age or that we were going to spin-off into the solar system away from the sun's energy. Ever since they sent the Pioneer probe to study Venus in 1978 and discovered the Venusian atmosphere to be 96% CO2, they've been fearmongering the "greenhouse effect" ever since. Nevermind Venus is too close to the sun, has no plants, very little water (less than 1% as water vapor now), only 3.5% nitrogen, etc, etc, etc.

    The Lefties here caught onto how this could benefit their taking more power in the 80's. When the Berlin Wall fell in '89, and the Commies were driven from Russia when the Soviet Union fell, they dispersed into the "Environmental Movement". This is why it seeks to control everyone with world government, which is nothing short of a world takeover since Reagan showed them they couldn't do it by force of arms.

    By contrast the Earth's atmosphere is 74% nitrogen (an inert, noble gas), 25% Oxygen, and the remaining 1% is "everything else", mostly water vapor, and a tiny sliver is CO2. In their arrogance Liberals just don't get how vast the planet and the atmosphere is.

    Carbon is the building block of life here, what we have in common with the plants. We just swap breathables cyclically.

    There isn't enough CO2 locked up in the biosphere or the ground that could possibly begin to affect the atmosphere were we to try to put every bit of it up. Even if there were, plant life would catch up so quickly to elevated atmospheric CO2 that they wouldn't let us get very far, even if we could, even if we consciously tried to destroy it. It just couldn't happen!

    Just as "political correctness" is definitely NOT correct, "green energy" or "green jobs" are NOT green. Reducing CO2 seeks to starve plants and by extension, our own oxygen supplies. CO2 MAKES green; it does not deter it and there isn't enough in the atmosphere to properly support plant life as it is.

    "Greenhouse effect" is good; it's what makes our planet "just right", unlike Mars, which if it could maintain an atmosphere, might be habitable, even at its distance. The greenhouse effect captures the Sun's energy for life here. Plant and animal life balance one another automatically, even though there are cycles which take time for equalization to work out.

    Al Gore, et al, are enriching themselves with perpetrating FRAUD upon their own people, and going further to destroy the West in favor of distributing our wealth internationally by fearmongered theft. This is nothing short of TREASON on Al Gore's part and all who have been accomplices. It is his "revenge" for not being elected. Can you imagine the hell we'd already be in if he'd been President? Thank you, George Bush!

    We don't want to give our money to Al Gore or other countries!

    Even so, what if the science WAS correct? How does it make sense that a warm spell on the plant is a bad thing anyway? Throughout history, all life on the planet does much better when it is warmer. Perhaps we could use temperate climes further north so the rain forests could spread, eh? What is inconvenient is that it would disturb where some animal and human life forms have staked claims on territories. Well, maybe they should be more willing to change.

    Sea levels WILL NOT rise any more than a glass of ice water overflows when the ice melts (because it doesn't). You would be surprised at how many students theorize that it would. Just ask some. Polar ice caps, for the most part, are floating in/on the oceans, specifically the Arctic Ocean. There isn't enough ice on actual land masses to change the oceans much, even if they were to melt. Any changing would be so gradual as to not upset the adaptability of the world or species within it.

    There's plenty of fossil evidence which shows that the world may ultimately return to its natural temperature, which may just be more temperate; not because of us, but because of the final stages of receding ice from the last ice age. Duh!

    Finally, God is in control; and God separated the land from the water. This means there isn't enough water left to cover the planet or much more of the land. He promised there would be no more floods. Nature will do as God wills outside of our puny influence. Yet, God also put us in charge of ruling the animals and dominating the earth in good stewardship. This doesn't mean we can control nature, but it does mean we can use it as we will. Nature has its own means for covering what we do up, and relatively quickly too.

    Notice how it was to attack a Godly world view (which the Constitution supports, I might add) before any of these other political aims happened or gained ground. Gee, I wonder why? Seems a little orchestrated generationally, doesn't it?

    For more interesting reading on Global Warming and the Nut Job the Left is doing by manipulating everyone's fears, see my "Big Picture..." blogs at  
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    These global warming thieves (none / 0) (#7)
    by maidintheus on Tue Dec 01, 2009 at 09:50:09 AM EST
    came up with this gimmick before any science and predetermined to make the research fit the gimmick. There have been differing opinions all along. As with evolution, opposing views are slapped down. For decades global warming and evolution is the only thing allowed to be taught in our schools and universities. This too was part of the plan.

    It's so much easier to implement the Marxist plan of control when the masses have been taught to believe the lies.

    climate 2005: http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=166

    Hockey Stick debunked in 2006, NAS Report and the Wegman Report: http://republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/108/Hearings/07272006hearing2001/McIntyre.pdf

    Bob Lutz, "global warming is a total crock of s**t." http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2008-02/gm-vice-chairman-calls-global-warming-total-crock-st

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