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    The Nuclear Option


    By JGillman, Section News
    Posted on Thu Nov 21, 2013 at 04:15:04 PM EST
    Tags: Stabenow, Reid, Levin, US Senate, Nuclear Option, Democrats, Hypocrisy, Filibuster, Cloture, 60% (all tags)

    I am not celebrating this as a way to point out the insipid nature of Harry Reid and Michigan's US Senators.

    They already fulfill a centuries old prophesy that politicians eventually would be not born, but would instead be excreted.  Indeed, of all the dumb things Democrats could do with US Senate rules, this one takes the cake.

    It's called the nuclear option for a reason. Democrats will regret this decision when Republicans take over the Senate in 2014 and win the Presidency in 2016. It was only a few short years ago that the GOP held the Congress and White House. The RNC as a great research piece on what top Democrats said then....

    The Hypocrisy Is Nuclear: Top Democrat Amnesia On The Nuclear Option  

    In 2005, Then-Sen. Barack Obama Called For His Colleagues Considering The Nuclear Option To Think About "Protecting Free And Democratic Debate." SEN. BARACK OBAMA: "Mr. President, I rise today to urge my colleagues to think about the implications of what has been called the nuclear option and what effect that might have on this Chamber and on this country. I urge all of us to think not just about winning every debate but about protecting free and democratic debate." (Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), Floor Remarks, Washington, DC, 4/13/05)
     

     

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    Obama: "If They Choose To Change The Rules And Put An End To Democratic Debate, Then The Fighting, The Bitterness, And The Gridlock Will Only Get Worse." SEN. BARACK OBAMA: "The American people want less partisanship in this town, but everyone in this chamber knows that if the majority chooses to end the filibuster, if they choose to change the rules and put an end to democratic debate, then the fighting, the bitterness, and the gridlock will only get worse." (Sen. Barack Obama, Floor Remarks, Washington, D.C., 4/13/05)
     

     

     

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    Obama: "It Certainly Is Not What The Patriots Who Founded This Democracy Had In Mind. We Owe The People Who Sent Us Here More Than That." SEN. BARACK OBAMA: "Right now we are faced with rising gas prices, skyrocketing tuition costs, a record number of uninsured Americans, and some of the most serious national security threats we have ever had, while our bravest young men and women are risking their lives halfway around the world to keep us safe. These are challenges we all want to meet and problems we all want to solve, even if we do not always agree on how to do it. But if the right of free and open debate is taken away from the minority party and the millions of Americans who ask us to be their voice, I fear the partisan atmosphere in Washington will be poisoned to the point where no one will be able to agree on anything. That does not serve anybody's best interest, and it certainly is not what the patriots who founded this democracy had in mind. We owe the people who sent us here more than that. We owe them much more." (Sen. Barack Obama, Floor Remarks, Washington, D.C., 4/13/05)
     

     

     

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    In 2005, Biden Called The Nuclear Option The "Single Most Significant Vote" In His "32 Years In The Senate" And "An Example Of The Arrogance Of Power."  SEN. JOE BIDEN: "Mr. President, my friends and colleagues, I have not been here as long as Senator Byrd, and no one fully understands the Senate as well as Senator Byrd, but I have been here for over three decades. This is the single most significant vote any one of us will cast in my 32 years in the Senate. I suspect the Senator would agree with that. We should make no mistake. This nuclear option is ultimately an example of the arrogance of power. It is a fundamental power grab by the majority party, propelled by its extreme right and designed to change the reading of the Constitution, particularly as it relates to individual rights and property rights. It is nothing more or nothing less. ... We have been through these periods before in American history but never, to the best of my knowledge, has any party been so bold as to fundamentally attempt to change the structure of this body." (Sen<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">.</span> Joe Biden, Floor Remarks, Washington, D.C., 5/23/05)
     

     

     

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    Biden: "I Pray God When The Democrats Take Back Control, We Don't Make The Kind Of Naked Power Grab You Are Doing."BIDEN: "Isn't what is really going on here that the majority does not want to hear what others have to say, even if it is the truth? Senator Moynihan, my good friend who I served with for years, said: You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. The nuclear option abandons America's sense of fair play. It is the one thing this country stands for: Not tilting the playing field on the side of those who control and own the field. I say to my friends on the Republican side: You may own the field right now, but you won't own it forever. I pray God when the Democrats take back control, we don't make the kind of naked power grab you are doing. But I am afraid you will teach my new colleagues the wrong lessons." (Sen. Joe Biden, Floor Remarks, 5/23/05)

     

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    Reid, In 2005: "The Filibuster Is Far From A Procedural Gimmick. It's Part Of The Fabric Of This Institution ... Senators Have Used The Filibuster To Stand Up To Popular Presidents, To Block Legislation, And, Yes, Even, As I've Stated, To Stall Executive Nominees." SEN. HARRY REID: "The filibuster is not a scheme and it certainly isn't new. The filibuster is far from a procedural gimmick. It's part of the fabric of this institution we call the Senate. It was well-known in colonial legislatures before we became a country, and it's an integral part of our country's 214-year history. The first filibuster in the United States Congress happened in 1790. It was used by lawmakers from Virginia and South Carolina who were trying to prevent Philadelphia from hosting the first Congress. Since then, the filibuster has been employed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times. It's been employed on legislative matters, it's been employed on procedural matters relating to the president's nominations for Cabinet and sub-Cabinet posts, and it's been used on judges for all those years. One scholar estimates that 20 percent of the judges nominated by presidents have fallen by the wayside, most of them as a result of filibusters. Senators have used the filibuster to stand up to popular presidents, to block legislation, and, yes, even, as I've stated, to stall executive nominees. The roots of the filibuster are found in the Constitution and in our own rules." (Sen. Harry Reid, Floor Remarks, 5/18/05)

     

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    Reid: "Some In This Chamber Want To Throw Out 214 Years Of Senate History In The Quest For Absolute Power. ... They Think They're Wiser Than Our Founding Fathers. I Doubt That That's True." SEN. HARRY REID: "For 200 years we've had the right to extended debate. It's not some procedural gimmick. It's within the vision of the founding fathers of our country. They did it; we didn't do it. They established a government so that no one person and no single party could have total control. Some in this chamber want to throw out 214 years of Senate history in the quest for absolute power. They want to do away with Mr. Smith, as depicted in that great movie, being able to come to Washington. They want to do away with the filibuster. They think they're wiser than our founding fathers. I doubt that that's true."(Sen. Harry Reid, Floor Remarks, 5/18/05)
     

     

     

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    Then-Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY): "If You Cannot Get 60 Votes For A Nominee, Maybe You Should Think About Who You Are Sending To Us To Be Confirmed..." CLINTON: "So this President has come to the majority in the Senate and basically said: Change the rules. Do it the way I want it done. And I guess there were not very many voices on the other side of the aisle that acted the way previous generations of Senators have acted and said: Mr. President, we are with you. We support you. But that is a bridge too far. We cannot go there. You have to restrain yourself, Mr. President. We have confirmed 95 percent of your nominees. And if you cannot get 60 votes for a nominee, maybe you should think about who you are sending to us to be confirmed because for a lifetime appointment, 60 votes, bringing together a consensus of Senators from all regions of the country, who look at the same record and draw the same conclusion, means that perhaps that nominee should not be on the Federal bench." (Sen. Hillary Clinton, Floor Remarks, 5/23/05)
     

     

     

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    Clinton Expressed Hope That The Senate Would Reject The Nuclear Option And "Remember Our Founders" And "Maintain The Integrity Of The U.S. Senate." CLINTON: "And I just had to hope that maybe between now and the time we have this vote there would be enough Senators who will say: Mr. President, no. We are sorry, we cannot go there. We are going to remember our Founders. We are going to remember what made this country great. We are going to maintain the integrity of the U.S. Senate." (Sen. Hillary Clinton, Floor Remarks, 5/23/05)
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    Huh? Whoa. What? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Corinthian Scales on Thu Nov 21, 2013 at 05:19:16 PM EST
    OK, I get it.  This is a Conservative blog so a big part of it is supposed to be about the obvious, the Democrats play for keeps and the rules are, there are no rules.  Ya, I know, big shocker.

    But, this?

    Democrats will regret this decision when Republicans take over the Senate in 2014 and win the Presidency in 2016.

    Boy howdy, Hoss.  I hate to break the news to ya but, the well-heeled, self-financing Flipper Bore ain't exactly inspiring me to show up to pork her chad next November.  Sorry Jen, you're on your own with that.  For that matter, the blowhard Fatso strong-arming his eminences around for the establishmentarian Gang Of Polyps 'con'servative presidential nominee ain't going to get my ass to the polls either.

    Democrats talking out of... (none / 0) (#4)
    by KG One on Sat Nov 23, 2013 at 12:32:38 AM EST
    ...both sides of their mouth.

    I'm shocked.

    Shocked, I tell you.

    Now we're supposed to be backing the democratic party minor league all-stars (a.k.a. the republicans) why?

    With insipid inspiring 'leadership' like this, well...

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