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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Raise the debt ceiling...


    By Crippy, Section News
    Posted on Wed Jan 05, 2011 at 02:46:05 PM EST
    Tags: Thaddeus McCotter, Gary Peters, Debt Ceiling (all tags)

    I know this seems odd coming from a Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist but there is a method to my madness.

    The United States is broke.  To climb out of debt, whatever the actual figure is, would be almost impossible.  It would require a 180 degree shift in the way at least 20% of Americans think.  It would mean saying goodbye to the welfare state, the warfare state and the nanny state.  It would require embracing personal responsibility, self-ownership, and private property.  As much as a I hope for a national epiphany, I'm not holding my breath.

    That being said, the Republicans are in control of the house, which because it controls the purse strings, I would argue is the most powerful branch of government, they should start acting like it.  They should make the raising of the debt ceiling contingent on repealing every Marxist scheme that has been shoved down our throats for the last 100 years.

    Obama wants the debt ceiling raised? Fine!  Attached to the debt ceiling increase should be bills that do the following:


    • Repeal Obamacare

    • Abolish the income tax

    • Dissolve Abortion Queen, Katheryn Sabelius's, Department of HHS

    • Defund the FCC so they can't take over the web

    • Dissolve the Department of Education

    • End the Fed

    • Cut the military budget in half and end all of the wars


    This is just a brief list that I'm firing off from the top of my head in a severely condensed time frame, but I digress.   Don't let this crisis go to waste.  The debt is never going to be repaid so why not add a few more trillion.  It may provide a little more time to get something really productive done.

    If you are so inclined contact your representative and make the suggestion.

    FYI: The Gutter Snipe, Gary Peters, is my representative, so there was no point in contacting him but I did contact Thaddeus McCotter.  I consider him my closest thing to a representative.  I have actually met Thaddeus and he seems like a good guy.

    God help us!

    -Crippy

    "When they kick out your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun. " - The Clash, Guns of Brixton

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    God luv yah, Crippy... (none / 0) (#1)
    by Corinthian Scales on Wed Jan 05, 2011 at 06:48:49 PM EST
    ...but.  I have to respectfully disagree on one glaring fact that always arises every time I encounter the so-called "true" conservative Libertarians and the flimflamming fence jumpers and shadowy frauds on the Right.  And, that is the one posted bullet point...

    # Cut the military budget in half and end all of the wars

    Absolutely no-fuggin-way!  Perhaps the always anti-military mantra of the Libertarian Party born in the days of the early 70's hippies that is the cause, but, America and for that matter, Westernized civilization does in fact have real enemies that our military is actively engaged with that will even kill their own leaders for merely not being Mohammedan enough.

    As for the almost impossibility of paying our debt... hogwash.  This must happen.  Listen to a liberal expert on debt for yourself.

    Ain't that just grand?  It only took Barry SoetorObama 2 years to spend $4 trillion.  Dubya took 5 years to spend $3 trillion and he had to deal with the "victims" of Katrina.  Oh! ...and 9/11 too.

    I wouldn't get all gloom and doom just quite yet. (none / 0) (#2)
    by KG One on Wed Jan 05, 2011 at 07:06:21 PM EST
    One of the things currently flying under the radar at that can accomplish mostly everything on your list (Obamacare can also be dealt with, albeit indirectly), is being voted on this afternoon.

    I direct your attention to H. Res 5 - Rules for the 112th Congress.

    Conviently beginning on the first page, I direct everyone's attention to the following:


    "SECTION 2. CHANGES TO THE STANDING RULES.

    (a) CITING AUTHORITY UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.--

    1) In clause 7 of rule XII, add the following new paragraph:

         ``(c)(1) A bill or joint resolution may not be introduced unless the sponsor submits for printing in the Congressional Record a statement citing as specifically as practicable the power or powers granted to Congress in the Constitution to enact the bill or joint resolution. The statement shall appear in a portion of the Record designated for that purpose and be made publicly available in electronic form by the Clerk.

     ``(2) Before consideration of a Senate bill or joint resolution, the chair of a committee of jurisdiction may submit the statement required under subparagraph (1) as though the chair were the sponsor of the Senate bill or joint resolution.''.

    .

    Tallahassee
    "It's time to nut up or shut up!"

    .

    This is where the GOP can show if it's actually ready to lead.

    Now that the democrats have already given up trying to understand what our Constitution means because it is "too confusing" for them,
    the GOP can use this advantage to literally pound them senseless and begin to start fixing the mess in Washington.

    That is, if the GOP is ready to actually lead.

    A response on the military bullet point (none / 0) (#8)
    by Rougman on Wed Jan 05, 2011 at 10:49:12 PM EST
    First, how about we also dismantle HUD, DOE, ninety percent of the FDA, the CPSIA, and the IRS.  Then, lets means test social security on top of a two percent roll back.  We can follow that with the sale of about a billion acres of land. (I want that parcel atop the pictured rocks.)  

    I would also say a few things concerning your bullet point on the military budget.  

    First of all, too much of what is spent on the military is spent to appease legislators who cannot fathom the closing of a local base or the shuttering of a local factory dedicated to building obsolete or unnecessary weapons systems.  As such these military expenditures differ very little from the bike paths and museums we see dedicated to (and earmarked by) benevolent overlords except that they are hugely more expensive than any museum ever envisioned by Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton.

    Secondly our civilian government must be willfully cognizant of what can be accomplished militarily versus what our politicians hope can be achieved if only more forces are thrown at the problem.  Some goals are not reasonable (nation building in Afghanistan,) some goals do nothing to serve our national interests (police action in the Balkans) and some goals are simply misallocations of resources (the Dept of Homeland Security investigating the effects of climate change--way to go Napolitano!)

    So, ya, there are untold billions that could be saved in the nation's military and either reallocated to more pressing needs or returned to pay down the debt.  Cutting it in half is not reasonable--maybe a few percent is possible and this would still amount to billions.

    Having said all of that, the libertarian tack on the military is, I believe, not applicable to today's real world.  I wish it was.  You say cut the military in half...many libertarians would agree while others would say cut it even farther.  

    Then again, in an echo chamber where even a response to Pearl Harbor is often considered an overreaction, I find it difficult to believe that following libertarian mores would grant us the judgment necessary to effectively respond to any legitimate threat before it had sneaked across our borders dressed in fluorescent orange and planted a bayonet in our collective ass.  

    By then it will be too late.

    One thing I will say Crippy is that you are a congenial debater and that is appreciated.  I know my blatherings aren't going to sway your beliefs, but I do appreciate getting in a word with you once in a while.  

    While I believe you to be full of crap about 30 percent of the time, I know full well my crap ratio is no less than two in five.  We're both still a lot smarter than that dipstick Gary Peters.

    • Actually... by Crippy, 01/05/2011 11:19:43 PM EST (none / 0)
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