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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Keeping Michigan in the Dark: What do the House Democrats have to hide?


    By Nick, Section News
    Posted on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 08:47:44 AM EST
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    That's the question everyone in the State should be asking this morning after repeated calls to open the budget books up to the general public again fell on deaf ears in the Democrat controlled House of Representatives.

    Yesterday Attorney General Mike Cox joined House Republicans in calling on Andy Dillon and his tax-hike caucus to give Republican "sunshine" legislation an up or down vote on the floor of the House.  Bills were drafted last year and have been languishing in committee ever since without so much as a hearing.

    Simply put, the legislation would put all state government spending on a publicly accessible web site.  When the Dems tell us they need more of our cash it only stands to reason that they explain precisely where it's going and why.

    "If this were in place last year,  we would have known the state had a $350 million surplus at the same time Democrats forced a tax increase on Michigan families and job providers," said House Republican Leader Craig DeRoche during a presser yesterday.

    DeRoche explained that posting detailed information online regarding departmental spending is not difficult, noting that Attorney General Mike Cox has already posted his department's spending on their Web Site.

    "Michigan citizens are now able to go online to my department's Web site and look at the name of the vendor, the type of service being provided, the term of contract, the amount of the contract, how much has been spent and how much is still outstanding on each and every contract," said Cox.  "This is the ultimate in consumer protection."

    The Government Funding, Accountability and Transparency Act, or FAT Act, is fashioned after bipartisan federal legislation that became law in 2006 to require the federal government to post itemized spending reports online.  House Republicans introduced similar legislation for state government in August 2007, but Democratic leadership has refused to act.

    The reform package also requires public school districts to post their own spending online.  The package eliminates the loophole in the Intermediate School District reporting requirements that exempts them from disclosing lobbying and other activities by ISD employees.

    But nope.  Not so much as a vote in committee.  Several Democrats in particular are holding up the process.  Kim Meltzer's HB 5083 and Fran Amos's HB 5084 are stalled in the Education Committee thanks to the obstruction of Committee Chairman Tim Melton and Vice Chair Mary Valentine.

    The final piece of the package, Jack Hoogendyk's HB 5137 is being held up by Steve Tobocman and uber obstructionist Paul Condino in the Oversight and Investigations Committee.

    This is common sense legislation.  It empowers taxpayers while holding government accountable.  Then again, that's the problem, isn't it Speaker Dillon?

    C'mon boys and girls, what don't you want us to discover?  What are you afraid of?

    < Thursday in the Sphere, March 20 | HUGE news for Michigan residents!!! >


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    rhetorical (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ed Burley on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 08:54:02 AM EST
    Those last two questions are rhetorical, right? We all know what they have to hide...the biggest con job in the history of the world.

    er, excuse me, please pass me the vasoline....

    lol... (none / 0) (#2)
    by whatever on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:44:23 AM EST
    why was my last post deleted? heck, i agree with you! you're preaching to the choir, brother.

    but a follow-up question: this site routinely links to 501 groups that hide their memberships and funding. shouldn't sunshine laws apply to them? it's a serious question.

    again, how is it not hypocritical for a 501 group to spout off about the need for transparency?

    certainly that's a legitimate point and question--or is it just inconvenient truths or things not easily explained are considered "trolling" here?

    they do spend our tax dollars (none / 0) (#4)
    by whatever on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:00:19 AM EST
    501s do spend our tax dollars when corporate interests shovel money into them that they didn't pay to us because of tax breaks and (in some cases) didn't provide us and our citizens because they wrote what they gave to the "non profit" groups.

    and why shouldn't citizens have a right to know who and what funds these front groups? isn't that part of making an informed decision about that message?

    Why (none / 0) (#6)
    by tenex22 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:25:57 AM EST
    Should this have to be voted on by anyone. This should be our right to know how our money is being spent.

    It is past time for the People to take back control from the politicians. They need to be taught a lesson that they represent the People.

    re: nick (none / 0) (#7)
    by whatever on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 12:44:20 PM EST
    there certainly isn't a blanket answer (for example, "require all 501s to report..."). the american red cross and habitat for humanity are, for example, 501s.

    that said, the system has been corrupted in recent years and we're now seeing more and more hate groups (for lack of a better term) use the loopholes of the 501 law to not only shelter money and circumvent the process but to use their front as a mechanism to attack and attempt to do away with a specific group.

    so i would argue the "slippery slope" has already happened. what's needed now is REFORM (to borrow an oft-used word such hate groups spew).

    re: john (none / 0) (#11)
    by whatever on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 01:17:48 PM EST
    yes, 527s are a big part of the problem:

    http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2008/03/527s-election-money-mudslingers.html

    but so is how some groups are using 501c3 and 501c4 entities--often in tandem (as the above article also shows).

    both political parties use them. again, that doesn't make it right. two of the bigger abusers of the system are these two:

    http://www.educationactiongroup.org/

    http://www.unionfacts.com/

    ah, that's the problem (none / 0) (#13)
    by whatever on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 03:11:18 PM EST
    of course wink political parties can't use them wink

    you're spouting legalities that betray the problem with these setups--unless you sincerely are that naive and don't believe these are happening.

    Honestly (none / 0) (#14)
    by maidintheus on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:11:59 PM EST
    Regardless if one knows the law or any other details presented (disregarding the many "strawman" statements/questions and two wrongs making a right implications...) it seems to me that if one meditated for a minute on "we, by, and for the people" the answer would be clear.  It's a reasonable request, I want to know, and feel I should.

    Sometimes I read the posts and it seems that some comments are not addressed to the topic, facts, or "us" but to some imaginary reader that they hope to confuse into visiting a more socialistic site.

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