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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    AGREEMENT REACHED: FY2007 deficit erased without raising taxes!


    By Nick, Section News
    Posted on Fri May 25, 2007 at 09:01:36 PM EST
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    Details are starting to come through this evening but it looks like the Senate and House have agreed on spending cuts and accounting changes to solve the 2007 budget deficit without raising taxes.

    Better yet, they've even avoided Jennifer Granholm's cuts to per pupil funding and Medicaid.  So now schools don't have to close and people don't have to die.

    This is starting to shape up as a major victory for Senate Republicans and Majority Leader Mike Bishop who's insisted all along that 07 and 08 be handled seperately and that the deficit be erased without a tax hike.

    Tax-and-spenders across the state are pulling out their hair, boys and girls.  They're pulling out their hair.

    For press coverage check out:

    The FREEP

    The Detroit News and

    The Associated Press

    < Why 6/1/07 = Y2K | Bishop Jumps the Shark >


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    Great job... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by sanuzis on Fri May 25, 2007 at 09:45:46 PM EST
    First on all the coverage...thanks!

    Excellent News! (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by DMOnline on Fri May 25, 2007 at 11:25:09 PM EST
    Excellent news!  Especially if it pans out as has been reported.

    And thank you for the equally excellent coverage.  We've been keeping our readers up-to-date citing RightMichigan.com

    Keep up the great work!

    DMOnline
    http://both-right.blogspot.com/


    Celebrate now (1.00 / 1) (#3)
    by NoviDemocrat on Fri May 25, 2007 at 11:33:51 PM EST
    because when you see what kind of deal Bishop made to get this passed, you'll be crying in your beer. As I've said all along, he's just pushed the problem along to the 2008 budget and there's no way he can make up that budget deficit on cuts alone, especially after all of the accounting gimmicks he relied upon this year. So the bill is still coming due and when next year's budget gets balanced with a tax hikes, thanks to Republican votes, you all will be complaining about how the Republicans sold you out.

    Breathe.. (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by DanaP on Fri May 25, 2007 at 11:35:34 PM EST
    Well, looks like we can let out a very small breath.  Great job reporting, Nick!

    We bought some time...and didn't raise TAXES (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by sanuzis on Sat May 26, 2007 at 12:10:24 AM EST
    Give our guys a lot of credit.  They hung tough and balanced the budget without raising taxes. Yes, they had to make some compromises, used some funds and accounting measures that they normally would have not wanted to use.

    However, we got through 2007 without raising TAXES...we bought some time to implement some of the real cost savings by addressing some of the "structural" issues and the Democrats still have to get their votes together to jam a tax hike through.

    The biggest compromise appears to be a commitment from Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop to allow a vote on taxes for the 2008 budget.  That doesn't mean they win that vote, but in the spirit of compromised he agreed to allow the Democrats to give it their best shot.

    That also means we have an opportunity to muster our supporters, push for meaningful reforms and stop any tax increase the Democrats try to slide through without addressing the spending problem we have.

    I just posted my morning commentary early for the weekend.  Take a few minutes and read my analysis and thoughts on the deal at:

    www.migop.blogs.com

    Congratulations again to RightMichigan for being first on top of the news, calling our activists to action and getting much of the inside scoop.

    Have a great weekend!

    Poor Saul... (1.00 / 1) (#6)
    by NoviDemocrat on Sat May 26, 2007 at 12:47:58 AM EST
    you can't really be so deluded that you think that Senator Bishop agreed to "allow a vote" on taxes without also agreeing that some Republicans are going to vote for a tax increase, do you?

    Republicans control the Senate. Without Republican votes, no tax increase will pass. Without an increase in taxes, the state's facing a massive budget deficit in 2008. Plus, if Republicans think they'll pass an SBT replacement with a tax cut (yes Nick, a tax cut), they'll be starting the year even further in the hole. Now that we've run through all of the one-time funds and accounting gimmicks, that leaves only major cuts to major programs to balance the budget.

    Are Republicans ready to head back to their districts to tell voters how they balanced the 2008 budget by slashing funding for schools or local governments or health care for the poor or maybe even prisons? Fat chance of that in an election year. No, Saul, some of your boys and girls in the Senate are going to roll and vote for a tax increase. Those imaginary savings that the Mackinac Center pulled out of thin air aren't going to materialize and some day, your party is going to have to come back to the reality-based world where state government and state services actually have to be paid for with real money, not IOUs.

    PS - Great to see that you've finally boned up on the budget dollars. I was wondering how long you were going to keep claiming that the State's entire budget was up for discussion when you should have known that most of that budget is federal funds or restricted funding that can't be tapped to use for the General Fund. See, old dogs can learn new tricks.

    Who were the 37 against? (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by RushLake on Sat May 26, 2007 at 06:24:37 AM EST
    How can we find out the names of those who voted against? They would be handy to have in '08 when they're up for reelection. I suspect my John Stewart clone, Corriveau was one of them, but don't believe that any of the newspapers on the democrat leash in his district will report it. Thanks.

    • Roll Call by Dutchsma, 05/26/2007 07:09:10 AM EST (5.00 / 1)
    Where are the Republicans? (1.00 / 1) (#9)
    by NoviDemocrat on Sat May 26, 2007 at 09:04:36 AM EST
    The one Democrat who is absent gets a front-page attack. But Nick is silent on the 3 House Republicans who are absent from these important votes. Can we say hypocrisy?

    EEEEEEEARLY thoughts on the 08 budget (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Nick on Sat May 26, 2007 at 11:16:24 AM EST
    A quick note on Cheeks... she was the only member who fled the country to avoid the vote.  Thus, she holds a special place of (dis)honor.

    Now...

    The idea that 08 is such a disaester that it can't be fixed through cuts alone is beyond silly.  It's ridiculous.  Ludicrous.  Crazy.  Daft.  Stupid.

    There are options for an 08 budget that weren't available for the 07 budget.  Savings that you wouldn't see fully without applying the changes to a full fiscal year.

    Here are some of the obvious areas:

    1. MESSA... the Senate introduced the legislation to kill it this week and accomplishing that could save as much as $400 million in FY 2008.

    2. Placing 5% of prisoners in privately managed facilities.  Just 5% could save as much as $200 million a year according to the Rio Grande foundation.

    3. Eliminating the Office of the First Gentleman (and firing it's staff).  That would save a quarter of a million dollars.

    4. Capping welfare benefits for able bodied adults at 4 years immediately so recipients who've been on the program have notice that at the beginning of FY08 those who've been charging up their bridge cards for 4 or more years are going to have to find a job (cruel in Granholm's economy, I know, but only fair).  Estimates vary on this one but it too would save tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars year one.  Michigan remains the ONLY state in the region without limits on welfare.

    Now, follow those up with some some of the school district and township consolidation that's already been introduced and discussed, let that start to yield some real benefits and all of a sudden you're looking at surpluses.

    It's doable.  Lansing spends too much.  They don't tax too little.

    Can celebrations - it's just stealing from future (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Hayekian on Sat May 26, 2007 at 01:24:17 PM EST
    2007 Senate Bill 436 (Balance 2006-2007 budget with cuts, accounting shifts, and debt)

     - Passed in the House (69 to 37) and Senate (26 to 10) on May 25, 2007, to partially close the gap between previously appropriated spending and expected revenue in the current fiscal year budget by adopting some relatively modest budget cuts (but none to schools), postponing various payments until the next fiscal year, contributing less-than-actuarially sound amounts to pension funds, "raiding" several "restricted" funds for $167.9 million (only $30 million of which is from "21st Century Jobs Fund"), and new debt. The bill actually increases welfare, Medicaid and prison spending. Government restructuring or additional spending cuts will be avoided by borrowing between $100 million and $600 million (depending on further negotiations.)
    http://www.michiganvotes.org/Legislation.aspx?ID=53253

    2007 House Resolution 124
      -  Introduced by Rep. Andy Meisner on May 25, 2007, to express support for using up to $100 million of money borrowed for need-based college scholarships and loans, and currently held by the Higher Education Loan Authority, to avoid spending cuts in the Fiscal Year 2006-2007 budget.

    2007 House Resolution 123
     -   Introduced by Rep. Virgil Smith, Jr. on May 25, 2007, to express support for borrowing up to $500 million to avoid spending cuts in the Fiscal Year 2006-2007 budget. The money would be borrowed against future revenue from the 1998 tobacco company lawsuit settlement, which currently is used for Medicaid spending, non-need based college scholarships, and other purposes. Passed in the House by voice vote on May 25, 2007.

    Here's one of the so-called "reforms" the Stupid Party wrestled from the Evil Party:

    2007 House Bill 4799 (Revise dual school employee pension/salary loophole ) - To adopt a substitute that does not repeal the repeal the loophole. A school employee would still be allowed to collect both pension benefits and a salary if he or she was employed by a school district that has a teacher shortage. Note: In many if not most cases, this is currently the reason usually given to justify what has been characterized as "double dipping". The substitute passed in the House by voice vote on May 25, 2007.

    You see that? It's no reform at all. It's a trick.

    Re: Township and School District Consolidation (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by RushLake on Sat May 26, 2007 at 01:26:13 PM EST
    It is ludicrous to have 83 counties and 500+ school districts. That one ought to be explored. Townships are another matter. My voting and mailing address is Plymouth Township. In general they demonstrate a great deal of responsibility to the tax payers. P.T. is in Wayne County. Wayne County is largely controlled by democrats, and demographics say that will not change. I already get crapped upon when I go for CCW renewal which is at the county level. I'm not in favor of turning over other aspects of my existence to democrats who do not care about tax payers except for economically processing them.  

    Wonder what Ward's and Hune's reasoning is? (none / 0) (#13)
    by Republican Michigander on Sat May 26, 2007 at 01:54:58 PM EST
    I'll call their office up Tuesday.

    Celebration is indeed in order (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Nick on Sat May 26, 2007 at 02:36:14 PM EST
    Is it perfect?  Nope.  When you're negotiating compromise with the tax-and-spenders in the Democrat party and against a governor who's idea of progress is the largest tax hike in Michigan's history then nothing will be.

    But Bishop and the GOP in the Senate said all along that the 07 budget could be balanced through cuts alone.  

    They succeeded.  

    And the things that were pushed off until the future can be addressed starting next week.  With months between now and the next fiscal year there's time for real and substantive reforms to be enacted.  Reforms that just weren't feasible in FY2007.

    Nope, we don't live in a perfect world, but lets not toss the baby out with the bathwater.

    The Denver Broncos entered Superbowl XXXII against the Green Bay Packers 17 point underdogs and they pulled it off, 31 to 24.  They didn't shut them out and in the fourth quarter players started dropping like flies in the Broncos defensive secondary.  

    It wasn't perfect and it wasn't always pretty but it was a win... an upset win.  And boy was it worth celebrating.

    So's this.

    And just like Mike Shanahan told his team in the lockerroom following the game... we should enjoy the win but get ready... because tomorrow we get ready to go for victory number two.

    Where's Two Penny Jenny today? (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by John Galt on Sat May 26, 2007 at 04:36:51 PM EST
    Mackinac?  Saugatuck?  Cadillac?  Hiding under her bed?

    If the threats were true - that the legislature was going to stay in Lansing all weekend to hammer out a budget... well, where's that Executive Signature?  (Or the veto because of missing "revenue enhancement")

    Empty leadership and empty threats are the kind of leadership we've seen for months.  Now that the work is done, where's the final signature?

    No where to be found.

    "Victory" isn't postponing a knock out (3.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Angry White Male on Sat May 26, 2007 at 07:02:34 PM EST
    There are less than $100 million in real "hard cuts" here. The amount of government spending actually goes up. There is zero reform or restructuring. What there is is a ton of new debt. Forget that "tobacco money securitization" tripe - it's just new borrowing.

    So tell me again why this is a "victory?" Especially since, reportedly as the price for this "deal," Mike Bishop caved on an income tax, all but guaranteeing a massive increase in the most economically destructive tax there is?

    You can only call this a victory in the sense that rather getting knocked out in the first round, our side put it off until the third. It's still a knock out, for Republicans politically (see my diary entry about dead rat heads in Coke bottles) and for the state economically.

    It is a small victory (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by DanaP on Sun May 27, 2007 at 08:42:57 AM EST
    This budget crisis isn't going to be won be any one hard and fast change.  It is going to take a lot of little changes.

    How can anyone possibly think that by raising our income taxes it will be beneficial?  Everyone is moving out of the state, unemployment is at an all time high, etc.  The income tax would hit the people that can least afford to have it implemented.

    Fiscal responsibility is sorely lacking - why give more money to an administration that has proven a lack of good stewardship?  I believe the number is $1.9billion more in money to spend than that of the Engler Administration.

    Aunt Jenny's way of doing things has always been to rob Peter to Pay Paul.  Creative accounting has always been at play - 2002, for example, the Legislature voted themselves a 40% pay increase... Regular NERE & Union employees of the state gave up over $4,000 each in concessions...  now, where do you suppose that money went to?

    There is going to be massive slashes in all other areas.  Already, Granholm has reduced the amount of money going into employee retirement.

    Bottom line: Who will they make cry? (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Angry White Male on Sun May 27, 2007 at 03:00:26 PM EST
    The pressure's on the budgeteers, and it won't come off until they've made one of two groups cry. If they raise taxes, especially the income tax, citizens will cry, as they watch this state's economy crumble even faster. Parents will cry as their children move away seeking opportunity, and property owners will cry just as did anyone who held on to their Detroit property after 1967.

    If they don't raise taxes then that means they have to get serious about reining in the pay and perks of the privileged class of government and school workers, who are doing much better than private sector workers in this state. The average pay and bennies of a state govenment worker is $75,000 according to the Mackinac Center, and $58,000 in the private sector here. There will be plenty of tears in Lansing and in union and Dem halls, but sighs of relief everywhere else.

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