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    Michigan Business Done Right - Today's Business


    By JGillman, Section News
    Posted on Wed Sep 30, 2009 at 07:23:05 AM EST
    Tags: Taxes, Michigan, 2007, Business (all tags)

    Our state legislature STILL has a lot of difficult decisions ahead of them, and perhaps most, that should have already been made. But the reality of what truly needs to be done has been might well have been put off by the uneasy feeling in the pit of their stomachs whether they are making the "right" decisions on cuts or tax raising.  

    I know that feeling.. After today it may return.

    I had another article lined up for today, but this message needs to be repeated. And the time is critical.

    If any of our state legislators have ANY question about what NOT to do, please take a look at something I had written in December of  2007 after the Michigan legislature, and the governor's pen infected this state with a confusing new business tax and subsequent surcharge.

    Some understanding of the new tax has changed, but the felling could well be the same.

    "I almost threw up...

    By jgillman, on December 4th, 2007

    My business model and the competition is such, that I must each year spend a few more dollars to make the same amount personally. Essentially increase my gross revenues, and make the same.
    Imagine my concern (quite gut wrenching) when I found I was about to be hit with the most unsettling tax anyone could imagine. The new Michigan Business Tax "has a couple components to it" as explained by my accountant. "The first is the business profits," (I am paraphrasing) "the second," he continued, "is the 0.8% gross receipts tax, which will now be closer to a full 1% with the new surcharge.. sorry to be the bearer of bad news."

    What my financial guru was telling me, was that the MBT was far worse for my particular business model than the SBT could EVER HAVE BEEN. That if I have to lower my margins to compete, I must RAISE my overall sales numbers, to make the same amount. By doing so, I would then incur a higher MBT, and ultimately be unable to function period. The accountant used the calculator available on the state's website to do the numbers, and came out with a figure which represented about 16% of my personal income.

    16%.... I couldn't imagine a 16% state tax levied on anyone.. add to that the 4.35% std state tax, 28% top marginal rate, and 15% self employment, and that means 63% is gone in taxes before I draw anything. Anything I have left is taxed with a 6% sales tax, excise, and other costs; Insurance, property taxes etc.. That 16%... of my income is essentially what my wife and I live on. Now it appears in jeopardy.

    I was sick. I went home and sat for about a half hour shaking..

    Then I called my competitor. I then called another competitor. I made a few calls and started planning my exit from being in business. I started thinking of how to move out of the state I love because some thieves in Lansing haven't the faintest concept of economics. One of my competitors wondered aloud how insane that kind of tax was. I agreed.

    Then I did what people need to do more regularly.
    I called my representative's office. I spoke to an aide, explained my problem, and asked if our guy knew what the impact of this (MBT) tax was. He explained my call wasn't the first on this topic. That apparently, I fall into another category which will limit my liability.

    I make under $180K, My gross receipts are less than $20mil, and the business net revenue is less than $1.3mil. This puts me in a "small business" category. He insisted this is the case, as he had JUST confirmed with the State tax policy analyst.

    Any ONE of those three items can mess up your world however. And though for the moment, this news was a bit therapeutic for me, it still doesn't help some of those who are just a little TOO HIGH in any of the three categories, because they are trying to remain competitive in the national or international markets.

    As an aside, it should be noted, my accountants are skeptical of the news from my rep's offices. The uncertainty in the accounting circles is troubling so close to the time when we need to plan for such a drastic change. My ability to keep a viable business in Michigan is unsure. It is a whole new motivation to write, when the harshest possible reality is staring you down, and not just an abstract (albeit true) ideology.""

    Ultimately in 2008 I discovered that MY business model wasn't quite as targeted as some. There were other parts of the MBT that were not as well understood.   A relief for me, as it turns out, was a disaster for many manufacturing concerns (you know the smaller non union ones which are the best job creators) and have caused many to fold or move in that short time.  Creation of wealth (building things and adding value) is especially hard hit.  

    Gentlemen and ladies of the Michigan legislature, please understand this state would be far better off without any additional complications, and any posturing now, should be with an eye on ultimate simplification of the taxation code.  Across the board cuts are appropriate, but please do not consider any funded program "off limits."  At some point it must be understood that a state that has been drained of its operating capital can no longer provide what might now be seen as untouchable.

    Your responsibility is not to save us from ANY pain, but distribute it in an appropriate manner that does not further punish the very job creators who are expected to provide the very recovery we seek.  A bill on the Governors desk MUST be signed.  If she will not, then let HER fail us one more time, as she is practiced at it.  Just make sure YOUR part of it, is not that straw which breaks the will of Michigan business to remain here..

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    Who will be left? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Rougman on Wed Sep 30, 2009 at 08:51:32 AM EST
    We may soon reach the day when the only people left in this state are the elderly and the unemployed, and the bureaucrats in Lansing who are charged with taking care of the elderly and the unemployed.

    The able bodied, the entrepreneurs, the desperate to work, the business owners, the newly graduated, and the freedom loving, may all have moved to Texas or Alabama or Wyoming or Colorado or only God knows where, where their lives and their livelihoods are not taken for granted both by those needing care and those desperate to provide it at the expense of others.

    A great and thoroughly depressing post.

    J... (none / 0) (#2)
    by sailingconservatively on Wed Sep 30, 2009 at 09:01:58 AM EST
    ...once again a salient, well presented post albeit frightening and exasperating, well done.

    I have a (small- two store) retail operation in the state of OH. I lease a combined total of 12,000 sf.  I commute a few times a week to Columbus to go through the financials, wrangle leases and check in on the Managers.  I am constantly asked by  my contemporaries "when are you gonna open up here?"  My answer is always the same.. " I cannot, it is too expensive"

    Tonight is the deadline(once again) for this nonsense that should have been ironed out completely during the past two years-yet is not.  I pray that sen. Bishop and his team will find the intestinal fortitude to finally do the right thing.  

    I really hope that you're right... (none / 0) (#3)
    by KG One on Wed Sep 30, 2009 at 09:40:43 AM EST
    ...about Bishop.

    But, I'll be honest: I just flat-out don't trust him.

    Things have been too quiet on the tax/fee front that I'm of the strong opinion that something has been agreed to in advance.

    Bottle deposits? Doctor tax? Ticket tax?

    Some combination or all of the above?

    I honestly don't know.

    But I've got a gut feeling that something will get raised before the final budget is passed.

    The Peter Principle... (none / 0) (#4)
    by sailingconservatively on Wed Sep 30, 2009 at 10:51:11 AM EST
    ...is alive and well in the halls of Lansing.   I do not know Mike Bishop personally and so cannot comment on anything other than his voting record.  Ditto for the balance of the legislature.  I do not believe that a comment is necessary here.  The present position our state now finds itself(yet again) is comment enough.

    The question will be answered in November of 2010 when the voters of Michigan go to the polls -and vote.  If they are finished with platitudes and opportunistic grand standing(all around) and are willing to hold these representatives accountable for their actions, then the complexion of the House, Senate and the Governors mansion will change.   If not... we will just pick up our hammers and continue to bash away and wonder why it hurts.

    I'm a bit speechless (none / 0) (#5)
    by maidintheus on Wed Sep 30, 2009 at 12:09:05 PM EST
    yet again and can't comment other then to say thank you.

    Thank you for staying in the game and shedding light where sorely needed.

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