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    The Michigan GOP - A False Dilemma and A Positive Vision


    By The Wizard of Laws, Section News
    Posted on Tue May 26, 2009 at 10:17:29 AM EST
    Tags: future, GOP, vision (all tags)

    (Promoted by Nick...)

    Cross-posted in The Wizard of Laws

    An article in the Detroit News today about "the battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party," posits the false dilemma that there is an ongoing struggle "pitting social and religious conservatives who unflinchingly tout an anti-abortion, anti-gay, family platform at the expense of most everything else, against the traditional fiscal conservatives and moderates who would rather focus on a smaller, less intrusive government that takes less from taxpayer wallets and finds ways to create jobs."

    Why are these positions inconsistent with one another? Why can't we be anti-abortion and anti-tax? No reason. Can you favor traditional marriage and at the same time believe in smaller government? Of course you can. These are not mutually exclusive views. In fact, they are compatible, consistent, and extremely attractive to the average voter.

    If Americans truly wanted pro-abortion, anti-family, fiscal liberals in office, why would the Democrats spend every waking minute of every campaign trying to persuade voters they are pro-family and believe in lower taxes and fiscal responsibility? They do so because they recognize, even if Republicans don't, that when one candidate is perceived as considerably more conservative than the other, the conservative wins; likewise, when the candidates are perceived as ideologically close, the Democrat tends to win.

    Read on...

    In every Presidential election since 1968, the Republican has won when he was perceived as being significantly more conservative than the Democrat. Think about the elections won by Democrats -- Carter in 1976, Clinton in 1992 and 1996, and Obama in 2008 -- and think about their opponents. Gerald Ford was not considered particularly conservative, George H. W. Bush had squandered his huge popularity by breaking his "no new taxes" pledge, and John McCain seemed to go out of his way to avoid conflict with Obama.

    Remember too that after McCain selected Sarah Palin as his running mate, his campaign surged, and he led Obama in the polls until the financial crisis hit, which McCain then bungled beyond repair.

    Now think about the elections won by Republicans during the same time frame -- Nixon in 1968 and 1972, Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984, Bush 41 in 1988, and W in 2000 and 2004. In each case, the Republican was not only more conservative than the Democrat, but went out of his way to emphasize the ideological gap.

    Here in Michigan, there is ample evidence of a socially conservative electorate. In 2006, Republican candidates for Governor, Secretary of State, and Attorney General received 42.3%, 56.2%, and 53.8% of the vote, respectively. That same year, Prop 2 on affirmative action was passed with 57.9% of the vote. In 2004, the marriage amendment passed with 58.6% of the vote.

    These socially conservative proposals outpolled the Republican candidates, clearly demonstrating that there is a core conservatism among Michigan's electorate. Instead of rejecting this dimension as too narrow or divisive, we should be embracing it as a unifying force for our party.

    Similarly, Gov. Tinkerbell and the Democrats in Lansing have shown us (again!) the extreme folly and disastrous consequences of tax-and-spend liberalism. Isn't that also a unifying force?

    When people talk about Republican "outreach," exactly to whom are we reaching out? And how? By piecemeal "initiatives" designed to placate various constituencies? By ridiculous legislation focused on minutiae? By "moving to the center," which means nothing more than compromising our principles and values and becoming more liberal? These are prescriptions for electoral disaster. How many elections do we have to lose before we realize that being Democrat-lite will not work?

    If we truly want to recover our balance and restore sanity to Lansing, we need a clear, forcefully articulated vision of life under a Republican government.

    Ronald Reagan combined social and fiscal conservatism with a strong defense posture, and he did what the GOP needs to do now. He did not fall into the trap of trying to pass off a set of proposals as ideology. He created and persuasively described his vision of America, and he let the voters come to him and to the GOP, which they did in record numbers.

    Social conservatism and fiscal conservatism are natural allies. Candidates who embrace both are destined for greatness. We cannot expect every Republican to be in lockstep on every single issue, but we can and should expect Republicans to share our core beliefs in individual freedom, personal responsibility, low taxes, small government, and the sanctity of innocent life.

    The solution to the false dilemma is a positive vision. What exactly are we trying to accomplish for Michigan and her citizens? The candidates who best articulate such a vision will unite the party, end this talk of division, and lead us into the future.

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    To paraphrase . . . (none / 0) (#2)
    by Kevin Rex Heine on Tue May 26, 2009 at 03:06:31 PM EST
    . . . from RWR himself, anyone with whom I disagree only one time out of five is a friend and an ally, not an enemy.  As Governor Haley Barbour said at the MIGOP Convention back in February, you can go a long way with someone you agree with 80% of the time.

    We really do need to dial back the overuse of the RINO label . . . save it for those Republicans who truly do not adhere to GOP core principles.  When we find ourselves in an internal disagreement, the question we should be asking is:  Can we disagree on this matter without compromising the core principles of the party?

    For example, I don't necessarily agree with Rep. Amash's support of NRAV, but his position, as he himself articulated it, is well reasoned and defensible.  I don't happen to agree with it, but his points are solid.  And I see no good reason to make an otherwise solid republitarian "walk the plank" because of a challengeable position.

    The Wizard does have a point in that any true Republican will embrace both fiscal and social conservatism.  Said Republican will also, on the campaign trail and on the record, point out where his opponent does not, and why that difference is important.  At the risk of really irritating Nick, I think that Dick DeVos' big screw-up on 2006 was failing to get squarely behind MCRI (as well as waffling on the debate question that gave him a chance to support right-to-work), and inadequately shredding the Governess based on her record (falsehoods about sexism be damned).

    Of course, these are just my thoughts.  What follows are the thoughts of my personal politial hero.




    But What About Dick? (none / 0) (#4)
    by DMOnline on Tue May 26, 2009 at 04:59:23 PM EST
    Overall, I would agree whole-heartedly.

    But Dick DeVos was all that and more and lost miserably to an already failed governor.

    What's up with that?  He had all the conservative credentials and positions yet lost.

    I suspect in this case it was The Messenger - not the message - that lost.

    DCuz
    www.RightCuz.com



    ALSO... (none / 0) (#7)
    by dsheill on Tue May 26, 2009 at 07:51:59 PM EST
    Yeah not supporting MCRI hurt Devos but it didn't make up the difference in his vote margin and the Democrat tidal wave of 2006 that Nick mentions. I'd rather have an economic conservative like Devos who's bad on affirmative action than someone like Cox who is good on affirmative action but bad on economics (e.g. going after the Ford Foundation, Blue Cross for covering some of its losses with costs in other areas, or going after "evil" price gougers at the pump). What both men have in common though is that they are terrible public speakers.

    -Dan
    www.mi.rlc.org


    2006 (none / 0) (#8)
    by goppartyreptile on Tue May 26, 2009 at 09:46:09 PM EST
    Democratic tidal waves don't happen, they are created. We got flabby; and the national scene didn't help.

    Devos is a great guy and would've done us a lot of good as governor, but he never answered the outsourcing to china attack, he never could get away from the bad feelings a lot of folks have about Amway, and he never quite connected to folks.  

    When I saw an article in the Oakland Press that they were considering buying a house in the county because he was campaigning so much down there, I knew the gig was up.

    Not that I am bashing on our candidate, but once they Democrat checklist to attack him was printed up, they very easily were able to x all the boxes in people's perceptions.

    Rich, out of touch, dirty businessman, doesn't care about the American worker, extremist, and so on.

    And there were so many arrows being flung that they couldn't all be knocked down.  And to be perfectly frank, there wasn't an attempt to knock most of them down.

    And once that took hold, Granholm was inevitably going to win.

    And, although the waters from the "tidal wave" were lapping a wee bit closer to my race, and we ended it packing sandbags and standing on chairs and so on, we outperformed the top of the ticket by 10 points. And you look at most of the races that the GOP won, or even lost (that we shouldn't have) and you'll see that they outperformed the governor's race.

    In 04 we either ran even with, or slightly outperformed, W.

    This article in the Detroit News is part of a recurring phenomena, in which the party that does poorly in an election is said to be "cracking up" or "going extinct."

    Now, when it's the GOP, they get positively giddy, since they can pile on and not worry about the biases that they have.

     Then they find some disgruntled folks to get a couple of juicy quotes from to stoke the fire, and bring up a series of random episodes to point out how our party is out of touch and so on.

    We are losing because the Democrats are out hustling us.  That's it.  This isn't about RINOs and the Youth vote and abandoning the pro life cause and not being hip, or a lack of twittering and so on.

    They took advantage of crappy economic conditions, anxiety over the war, and general malaise with government... and out hustled us.

    Novices talk strategy, experts talk logistics.

    And we need both right now.  Badly.

    Temporary Blip or Shift to the Left? (none / 0) (#9)
    by DMOnline on Tue May 26, 2009 at 10:46:15 PM EST
    I totally agree with everything that's been written here but I have to raise a concern that's been really bugging me of late.

    In my little election as a township trustee, I narrowly beat the Democrat I ran against.  And mine has been a reliably Republican township for generations.  I'd keep telling myself this is because the Dems hit a high water mark with the election of Obama.  They won't be nearly as successful in future elections.

    But I also sense we may be going through a sea change in this country.  After 26 years of conservative rule (from Reagan in 1980 through 2006), has the country decided it's time to give the libs (for 4, 8, 12, or 26 years) control?  There's an entire generation of voters who weren't around in the 60's and 70's to remember first hand what liberal ideology did to this country.  

    Is it possible our side will be on the sidelines for longer than just a couple years (i.e. 1992-1994 then we took control of Congress with the '94 elections)?

    I have a nagging sense we may be in the wilderness for much longer than any of us dare to think.

    DCuz
    www.RightCuz.com



    Defining Conservative (none / 0) (#11)
    by dsheill on Wed May 27, 2009 at 10:57:41 PM EST
    I think the goppartyreptile hit the nail on the head when he talks about getting out-hustled, but I would also add that how you define conservatism is very important and explanatory of why the party is suffering. Right to Life has been an extremely effective organization in holding polticians accountable on their issue and they have had a significant impact in playing kingmaker in countless GOP primaries. However, because there is no fiscal equivalent out there to Right to Life, GOP office holders are more likely to take notice of voting stongly pro-life knowing that they can "relax" their ideological discipline in other areas. For example, few of you out there would label Thad McCotter a RINO, and this is a guy who voted for S-Chip and Card Check making him no better than say Rick Synder who we know much less about, but who is someone that many of you has already labled a RINO for his positions of abortion, and more specifically, stem-cell research. All I ask is that we remain consistent here. Otherwise, you get what the GOP is today and that's still very much the party of Bush, which is unappealing to most Americans. What I mean by "party of Bush" is a party that, contrary to popular belief, has not gotten more liberal when it comes to social issues, but HAS gotten MUCH more liberal when it comes to fiscal issues. So while it is correct to argue that social and fiscal conservatism are not incompatible, the current makeup of the GOP would have you believe that they are.

    What we need is a fiscal equivalent to Right to Life. That is, usually in a GOP primary, someone who loses the Right to Life endorsement gets the kiss of death for his candidacy. But you don't see that if the candidate gets both the right to life and the MEA endorsement. This is unnacceptable, and I would argue that, for example, in a state house GOP primary, if candidate A is endorsed by right to life and the MEA, but candidate B is endorsed by Great Lakes Education Project then candidate A is NOT superior to candidate B.

    Club for Growth is an example of an organization that tried to be the fiscal equivalent to Right to Life but really has not grown as fast as planned. Further, they have zero focus on state house races. A fiscal equivalent to Right to Life needs to emerge in the Republican Party. Only then will fiscal and social conservatism be consistent with for most officeholders another once again.

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