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    Regressisphere off the tracks: Attempt to WATERBOARD Zarko is LUNACY!

    By Nick, Section News
    Posted on Thu May 14, 2009 at 10:50:05 AM EST
    Tags: Regressisphere, Zarko, torture, nonsense, insanity (all tags)

    I hesitate to even discuss this issue but the Michigan Regressisphere's latest game is starting to get dangerous.  Physically dangerous.  

    The Left doesn't like waterboarding.  Waterboarding is torture.  Waterboarding is the devil.  The Left especially doesn't like the Bush administration because it used waterboarding as an interrogation technique to garner information about terror attacks from unrepentant terrorists.  Can't torture terrorists... that's inhumane.  American citizens and fellow Michiganders with whom you happen to disagree politically?  Apparently that's a different story.

    Read on...

    Many of you may have been following the efforts of some on the Left side of Michigan's political blogosphere to actually, seriously waterboard Chet Zarko. No hyperbole.  No philosophy.  Actually fasten the man to a slab and torture him.  They've even started a website called "Waterboard Chetly" and have expanded their efforts to the big liberal Michigan blog, to DailyKos and to various other Lefty online outlets.

    Now Eric over at MichLib is offering to be waterboarded himself to prove a point and we've even got Brady suggesting that yours truly be waterboarded, too, as a part of some sort of mephistolic fundraising circus.

    You can get caught up on the entire (literally) terrifying situation over at Chet's Oakland Politics blog.

    For his part, thus far, Chet actually seems willing to accept their "challenge."

    Dear Chet,

    Have you lost your freaking mind?!  Do NOT go along with this nonsense. Period.  Under any circumstances.  Ever.  

    A) Waterboarding is dangerous and unpleasant.  People hate it for a reason. There are physical and psychological difficulties associated with the procedure that can last for years.

    B) I have ZERO faith or trust in anyone associated with this Fealk character to do ANYTHING appropriately or professionally.  The man actually went on CraigsList to find a "professional waterboarder."  Red flags.  Thousands of them.  Big and bright.  Flapping in the breeze.  

    C) All you WILL prove is that the experience is positively dreadful.

    D) You've ALREADY proven a staggering point about Fealk and the Lefty sphere... they are shrill, vitriolic partisans and nothing more.  They oppose waterboarding terrorists, butchers and mass murderers even when it might save thousands of lives... but they are willing to waterboard a political opponent just to prove a point?

    If they truly opposed the procedure because of it's barbarism they would NEVER suggest or actually go forward with ANY waterboarding under ANY circumstances.

    By leaving their so-called "conviction" at the door on this one they don't just cut their own legs out from under their argument... they also throw it down a flight of stairs, crush it's windpipe with a large stone, fire three bullets into it's skull and then incinerate it's remains.

    I am asking you as a human being and as a friend to take Nancy Reagan's advice... Just Say NO!

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    Torture (none / 0) (#1)
    by grpundit on Thu May 14, 2009 at 11:23:34 AM EST
    It's frustrating the the GOP continues to defend torture. The point is that it doesn't produce reliable information. The FBI backed out for a reason.


    • So, grpundit, by maidintheus, 05/24/2009 07:34:57 PM EST (none / 0)
    • grpundit, by maidintheus, 05/24/2009 07:56:43 PM EST (none / 0)
    Bah (none / 0) (#2)
    by Brady on Thu May 14, 2009 at 11:30:40 AM EST
    No worries, none of you is getting waterboarded.  I only threw your name out there in the interest of balance.  However on this issue, I'm inclinded to agree with Chetley and disagree with the lefties like you and Eric.  Having been through two near drowning experiences myself (scuba diving), I can imagine what waterboarding feels like.  It certainly wouldn't be pleasant.  But if it keeps several thousand people from being burnt alive by aviation fuel or forced to jump to their deaths from buildings, its limited use could be justified to extract information from terrorists.

    I'm not impressed (none / 0) (#3)
    by Rougman on Thu May 14, 2009 at 12:44:00 PM EST
    I'll be impressed when I see people volunteer to have their fingernails pulled out and to have electric terminals attached to various parts of the body.  When people volunteer for blow torch burns, beatings with boards with nails, wood chippers, etc., I'll be impressed with their bravery, though less impressed with their intellect.

    Eric's willingness to subject himself to a very subjective and watered version of torture leaves me both unimpressed with his bravery and skeptical of his relativism.

    This is some... (none / 0) (#5)
    by rdww on Fri May 15, 2009 at 09:31:56 AM EST
    ... serious wierdness taking over.
    However, I should make the point that I am quite a conservative right-winger and I don't like waterboarding either.  It's part of the overall torture/"enemy combatants" issue that's proving to be like a software virus in conservative thinking -- it introduces all sorts of incoherent contradictions that cripple our entire philosophical OS.  If it's not torture, then why not allow it as a standard interrogation technique at police stations across America?  What's the problem?
    Further, we as conservatives refuse to admit that the idea of an "enemy combatant" who is not a POW, and not a criminal prisoner, is no more than a term of convenience, a "words mean whatever we want them to mean" fabrication.  
    The dismissal of business and contract law now being shown by President Hussein just builds on a disregard for law that we conservatives already permitted.

    Don't Do It! (none / 0) (#6)
    by AdrienneKH on Fri May 15, 2009 at 10:01:25 AM EST
    It is nonsense - right or left - to openly agree to be tortured, even so- to be tortured to prove something. It proves nothing!

    But, if you're going to do it, why stop at waterboarding, there is so much more you could do:

    -sleep deprivation
    -sexual assault
    -stress positions
    -sensory deprivation

    Taxicab to the Darkside-my friends. Watch it!

    Zarkoboarding (none / 0) (#7)
    by dsheill on Sun May 17, 2009 at 02:03:32 AM EST
    I'd pay to see Zarko sit on a dunk tank as lefties try to knock the bullzeye with a tennis ball. Sorry Chet!

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