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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

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    Erm.. (none / 0) (#6)
    by jgillmanjr on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 10:29:33 PM EST
    How were our circulators violating the law? The ones that might have by being ineligible were planted by Dillon et al.

    These cats, presumably getting paid by Stryker, are just outright lying. Biiiiiig difference there Cheech.


    Are you short? (none / 0) (#7)
    by Chazwald on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 10:52:08 PM EST
    I think the point just flew over your head. It has nothing to do with the money. Who cares if those circulating petitions are getting paid. What matters is the manner of which they are lying to get signitures. I have been personally asked to sign such a petition. They told me it was sponsored by police officers, teachers, and doctors for the good cause of making sure Congress does not vote themselves a pay raise. Ludacris!!! What they said was a bold faced lie, so they can get a little bling bling. Give me a break.

    Partly right, NoviD (none / 0) (#13)
    by chetly on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 01:15:37 PM EST
    You're partly right, NoviD.

    I have no problem with Stryker spending his money to express his views (and you love it, even though you have a problem with conservatives who spend money likewise -- so put the shoe on your own foot).

    On the other hand, there has never been anything like this petition in terms of the number of objects it addresses (there's a legal doctrine on that, actually, which will certainly be one of the challenges if they come up with the signatures), its complexity, and the very things this petition seeks to do.  We - or at least I - am disagreeing with the content of the petition, not the process.  They have a right to circulate it - but they have to follow the same rules everyone else does, are subject to the same allegations of fraud (and nothing has been proven to my satisfaction, YET), and the content of their petition is open to debate. This petition seeks to "re-stack the court" in a similar way to FDR's attempt in the 1930s to change the number of justices - that's what makes it anti-democratic (not the fact that it is using the petition process). Don't confuse my disagreement with the content with any claim that they don't have a right to attempt this.

    No one has proven that Leon violated the law (only that not enough of his petitions met the technical specifications), and no one has proven that Stryker has.

    Chetly Zarko
    Outside Lansing & Oakland Politics

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