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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Too much government?


    By Eric T, Section News
    Posted on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 05:48:21 PM EST
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090102/ap_on_go_ot/gas_tax

    "According to a draft of the financing commission's recommendations, the nation needs to move to a new system that taxes motorists according to how much they use roads. While details have not been worked out, such a system would mean equipping every car and truck with a device that uses global positioning satellites and transponders to record how many miles the vehicle has been driven, and perhaps the type of roads and time of day."

    Well I'm not going to complain about a 10 cent a gallon gas tax hike, while these gas prices we got right now are are very comfortable.

    but the idea of global positioning satellites and transponders to collect taxes, this is getting carried away, I would not be surprised if the next wacky idea to come from some lefty extremist might be a meter we all have to wear around our neck to gauge our oxygen intake and then access the proper tax, or maybe another leftist plan might be to implant a micro chip in everyones rectum to measure their intake of saturated fats or alcohol or whatever the government decides it wants to tax and then access the proper tax?

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    Going Green? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Eric T on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 07:30:46 AM EST
    If going green means, you'll be saving some of the green in your wallet. To most people it will make sense, The price of hybrids can be up to $9,000 more than the price of the non hybrid models. So why would someone want to pay extra to buy a hybrid?

     The milage tax will discourage use of hybrids,  going green, will just be some kind of fashion statement and nobody will want to mess around with the more expensive hybrids.

    The left is on both sides of this issue, on one hand they want the enviromental friendly cars, but in reality they want the revenue that the bad gas milage SUVS and pickups, full size vans, muscle cars, ect...bring in.

    Which is it, support the economy, pay more fuel taxes and drive a gas guzzler, or pay more for a hybrid but don't get any value from it because of a milage tax?

    IF (none / 0) (#2)
    by chetly on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 10:29:45 AM EST
    A big IF here, but if road repairs could be tied effectively to some kind of tax, it would be no different than the market solution of toll roads.

    4 problems. 1) Government is in charge, and the transponder idea is a major infringement of privacy and fifth amendment rights, among other things.  Imagine Big Brother tracking your every movement. 2) Government would have to build a huge bureaucracy to monitor 300,000,000 people, and then collect the taxes.  3) Taxes are almost always fungible - so when you collect a new tax, even if genuinely earmarked, it won't decrease other taxes and won't decrease spending, both of which will gradually creep back up to fill the tax well at a higher new level.  4) Michigan can't even allocate road money correctly based on demand - that is, disproportionate shares of road money are spent on underutilized northern roads because the formula is out of whack.  Whose to say that a federal system - if perfectly collected - is going to evenly fix roads when no state system has figured it out.  At least with state politics, we have a chance - and at least the dollars are going somewhere in the state.

    For these reasons, these ideas are roundly bad.  Particularly the GPS tracking tax.  That makes Bush's Patriot Act look tame in civil liberties terms.


    Chetly Zarko
    Outside Lansing & Oakland Politics

    chetly (none / 0) (#3)
    by Eric T on Sun Jan 04, 2009 at 08:03:32 AM EST
    I'm glad to see I'm not the only one disturbed, by the privacy issue.

    I think the hybrid segment of the market, really demonstrates better than anything, how the market does work to fix its problems,

    alot of these technologies are still in the development phase, and not even out on the market yet, the idea of the mileage tax for these cars is like doing an abortion on the new hybrid  segment of the automakers market.

    The high performance sector of the automotive market was killed in about 1972 or 73 by Nader.
    Do you remember 450 horsepower 455 Olds W30 engines, Plymouth Roadrunners, ect...
    Government came in and said we don't want you building that stuff, then the next few years, they were forced to build stuff people did'nt really want.

    Still in the research and development stages for alot the hybrid market, I think it could be way to soon for the government to come in smashing up the motivation (with mileage taxes) that someone would have (saving money on fuel) to go out and buy a hybrid.

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