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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Wondering Where Candidates Stand


    By Kevin Rex Heine, Section News
    Posted on Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:01:38 PM EST
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    (Promoted by Nick...)

    If you want something done about the taxes in this state, then permit me to suggest that we fundamentally re-write the state's tax system.

    Some time ago, the Michigan FairTax Association sent surveys to candidates for the Michigan State House as well as our competing Federal Senate candidates.  In it we have asked them three simple questions regarding the FairTax Concept, the National FairTax Initiative, and the Michigan FairTax Proposal.  Where we have received answers, we have posted them for all those who want to know where their candidate stands on the issue.

    Please take a hard look at that Candidate Position List.  If your candidate of choice hasn't responded, then by all means demand an answer from them as to why.  (Carl Levin's and Jack Hoogendyk's positions were known before this election cycle started.)  And while you're at it, threaten the withdrawl of your support -- and the support of everyone you know -- unless they get behind the proposal.

    The reason that I ask this is because the legislature has the power (requiring a 2/3 super-majority) to place the issue on the 2010 ballot without any petition campaign being necessary.

    Assuming Nick allows this, consider this an addendum to his current challenge.

    Kevin Rex Heine
    Community Organizer
    Michigan FairTax Association

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    Community Organizer... (none / 0) (#1)
    by Nick on Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:07:38 PM EST
    Niiiiiiiice.

    Another idea. (none / 0) (#2)
    by LookingforReagan on Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:50:13 PM EST
    How about we rewrite the state Constitution to prevent the Governor and Legislature from engaging in Nanny State Socialism as our Marxist Governor and the Polit-bureau House have decided to do. It is time to get the State our of our homes, our business and our lives. Fire Granholm, vote out all incumbants and lets start over with some adults in charge. Then maybe we can get some tax relief, some chance at attracting new business and jobs to Michigan. But with this current crop of little tin Gods running things we the people don't have much of a chance.
    GIVE THEM ALL THE BOOT.

    • So then . . . by Kevin Rex Heine, 09/24/2008 03:45:27 PM EST (none / 0)
    Soon, LookingforReagan. Soon. (none / 0) (#3)
    by KG One on Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 09:00:31 AM EST
    Michigan will have an opportunity for a ConCon in '10.

    If the cards are right, this would be a great opportunity for some major housekeeping.

    KEVIN . . . (none / 0) (#4)
    by Clydes Dale on Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 09:13:13 AM EST
    If sales tax in Michigan goes to 9.%  Would most folks go out of state to buy cars and appliances and other expensive items, etc?  

    I know the Fair Tax has many bright points - but such a major change surely will have consequences - Do you know what they are?  

    Most people simply can not "picture" this tax senario in their minds.  

    Are there other states with this level of consumption tax?

    Responding to Clydes Dale . . . (none / 0) (#8)
    by Kevin Rex Heine on Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 04:00:08 PM EST
    You should know that, under the current business taxation system, between 12% and 22% of the on-the-shelf price of everything purchased (food, gas, hardware, cars, etc . . . everything) is embedded (and hidden) business taxation.

    So, before you go thinking that a 9.75% sales tax is big, account for the fact that the on-the-shelf price will be very much lower when businesses don't have to pad their prices to account for confiscatory state taxation practices.  In other words, instead of paying sales tax on a dollar, you'll be paying it on eighty cents.  (Referring to purchase price difference here.)

    And also note that used goods will never be taxed again.  That's right, no sales tax on used cars, appliances, clothes, and so forth.

    Additionally, the tax system will no longer care how you earn your money (including prostitutes, drug dealers, gamblers, and illegal immigrants).  We'll only worry about when you spend it.

    As a concrete illustration, allow me this example:  In the course of collecting signatures for the MFTP, I personally reached into 47 counties in this state, and as a result had many conversations with many gas station owners.  I always asked them how much they could reduce their at-the-pump prices if they didn't have to concern themselves with state business taxes anymore.

    Their answers ranged from 30 to 45 cents.

    I then would ask them to extend that tax relief to their entire supply chain, from the point that it crossed the state line.

    After doing a little figuring, they typically returned with a figure of ONE DOLLAR PER GALLON.

    Yup, that's how much you're paying at the pump to cover Michigan's business taxation.

    Just something to think about.

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