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    GR Democrat Proposal: No jail for criminals if they say "sorry"


    By Nick, Section News
    Posted on Tue Dec 09, 2008 at 06:44:11 AM EST
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    We're still watching and waiting to see what whether or not the Democrats in Congress are going to sacrifice millions of Michigan jobs to protect the give-away cash they secured for their special interest friends in the financial services sector and in the meantime, we're learning shocking things about our economy right here at home.

    It turns out that the recession everyone's facing nationwide has been going on here in Michigan for years and that, get this, it isn't ONLY the auto industry!  I know, I know, you've listened to the Granholm-Cherry administration and you've read your local op-ed columns and you've listened to NPR and you were convinced that the only reason Michigan was lagging behind the rest of the country was because of the Big 3 but fancy new numbers that were just released are telling you to officially hold your horses.  Michigan's economy is in the tank across the board, across job sectors and across the state.  The Ivory Tower:

    Every county in Michigan with a population of more than 20,000 saw a decline in real household income since 2000, according to new U.S. Census Bureau data released today...

    "If you look at some of these communities," the figures send a clear message that "nobody is immune. All parts of the state -- urban and rural -- are feeling the effects of the recession," said Kurt Metzger, director of Detroit Area Community Indicator System, a nonprofit center that studies demographic trends.

    Earlier census figures showed that Michigan was the only state in the nation to experience a decline in real median household income from 2006 to 2007.

    The IT has a fancy graph and chart and a list of some of the county-by-county numbers along with some community figures and none of them are pretty.  Everyone is being hammered and hammered consistently.  But don't worry, the administration, they've got a plan and they're working that plan and they're working it and they're working it and they're working it.  And if you're the kind that demands results, well, you just got them.  (I didn't say you were going to LIKE them.)

    So what's a state facing a real and serious, protracted,  auto and non-auto related recession to do?  According to Grand Rapids City Commissioner, trial lawyer and perennial Democratic candidate-for-whatever-office-happens-to-be-on-the-ballot David LaGrand they're supposed to create a new line item in the budget to fund, get this, a system where dangerous criminals can get out of jail by apologizing to their victims.  What, no "time out?"  Not even a "go sit in the corner and think about what you've done?"  Its something they call "restorative justice."  Here's how it works:

    Commit a crime.  Tell the person whose life you may have ruined that you're "really sorry, honest," go home.  

    Read on...

    Instead of carting an offender off to court and possibly jail, a restorative justice program put the case in the hands of a mediator, who contacts with the offender and the victim...

    The mediation would be handled by the Dispute Resolution Center of West Michigan. Jon Wilmot, the center's executive director, said cases would be handled by his corps of 40 volunteer mediators in seven counties.

    Apparently saying "sorry" is supposed to be more of a deterrent than doing hard time.  Five to ten at county? I could do that time on my head.  Saying "I'm sorry?"  C'mon, man, that's obviously cruel and unusual punishment.

    And, of course, they're going to have to hire people to supervise the program, to set it up, to operate it from the City's end... its going to be a whole production.  

    The program, they say, wouldn't be available for folks convicted of violent crimes but only those who have committed property related crimes... fraud, theft, embezzlement, things like that.  

    I, for one, think this is brilliant.  Thugs smooth talk their way into your grandmas house and make off with her life savings while she's distracted?  No big deal.  Jail is over-rated.  Just say you're sorry.  

    Contractors working on a home improvement, don't deliver the goods and swindle you out of time and money?  No problem.  Simply apologize.  

    Car thieves break into your garage at night and make off with your only mode of transportation leaving you unable to get to work to provide for your family or to afford a replacement vehicle?  Just tell the judge and the victim it was your bad and you're off the hook.  Oh, the judge, the victim and the volunteer mediator.  Because nothing screams "I'm able to handle a potentially explosive situation between a career criminal and his victim" like the title "volunteer mediator."

    Not that that should matter.  Won't be long after LaGrand gets his program that he'll be pushing to make those volunteers official, high salary, full benefit city employees.  Which would be perfect, really, because then he could loan one of them to the city of Detroit.  Another elected Democrat in the D is getting hassled by the five-o.  According to the Detroit News:

    The FBI is investigating allegations that Wayne County Commission Chairwoman Jewel Ware put felons on the county payroll so they could work at a bar and hotel Ware owns with her husband in northern Michigan, Ware's lawyer confirmed Monday.

    In another development involving Ware, campaign finance records show Ware has paid at least $36,500 from two campaign funds to her husband, Jesse Long-Bey, since 2004, with $14,000 of that amount this year.

    Ware's lawyer, Hugh M. Davis Jr., said he is confident investigators will determine Ware did nothing wrong when they examine the evidence he has compiled in the employee case.

    Apparently he's not as confident about investigators' opinions regarding the campaign finance embezzlement.  Either way, I'm sure if she tells a mediator she's really sorry and broadcasts it on TV then the FBI will let her off the hook, or at least they should, right Mr. LaGrand?

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    Restorative justice is worth a look (none / 0) (#1)
    by Wes Thorp on Tue Dec 09, 2008 at 07:34:39 AM EST
    Nick--
    I appreciate your post about restorative justice.  I understand your concerns on their face.  But, the whole issue deserves a closer look than you're giving it.

    Restorative justice is a concept and practice that was embraced and promoted by Chuck Colson of Prison Fellowship a couple of decades ago.  

    The concept is simple:  The relationship between the offender and the offended needs to be restored.  And the offender needs to be restored back to society.  

    I spent almost 20 years as a Prison Fellowship volunteer and I saw the human rot that's caused by the present system.  Many, if not most, offenders feel no responsibility to who they offended.  They see their job is to do the time or to get out of it through appeal.

    Would it make a difference to have a thief face up to what he or she has done?  

    I think that the concept deserves a look, a deeper one than being espoused in GR.  

    It's biblical and it can work in some situations.

    Call Doug Redford, the development director at Mel Trotter in GR.  He's the former Michigan director for PF.  He can give you specific details about how restorative justice is practiced in other states.

    Wes

    They're admitting they're just children (none / 0) (#2)
    by maidintheus on Tue Dec 09, 2008 at 07:41:49 AM EST
    so it's nice to have them come clean about the obvious.

    Everyone knows this is a technique used by those dealing with children who are so immature they don't even fully understand the words "sorry" or "honest."

    It's kind of hard to believe that these fully grown individuals who've studied the law, don't understand legal issues and the difference between childish behavior and criminal behavior though. Honestly, that's sorry!

    Making a suggestion like this is childish and they should tell the public "sorry" for suggestion, honest or otherwise...'cause that's how this game actually works.

    Those masquerading as mature adults should be continually derided until out of office. They're hysterical! Either that or they should be on death row...the punishment doesn't need to fit the crime, honest!  

     

    the key to "restorative" justice (none / 0) (#5)
    by designated conservative on Tue Dec 09, 2008 at 09:13:12 AM EST
    What is the key to this notion of a restorative justice?  It is a humble heart - a change of heart on the part of the perpetrator that causes him or her to grieve for the victim and the pain he or she has caused in committing the criminal act.

    Nothing less than this change of heart will do.  Without it, the perpetrator is simply going through the motions of repentance and everyone in the room will know it - especially the victim.

    How does one become humbled?  That varies, but most often a criminal mind equates to a "hard heart" in which the victim is seen as a non-person (a "thing" without feelings, family, etc.) - so it doesn't matter in the criminal's mind what he or she does to that "non-person."  How does such a criminal become humbled?  Their only chance is through the learning and personal growth that can come (if one is willing and makes the long-term effort) through suffering the consequences of their actions.

    Now, having to apologize to the victim is a good consequence, but it should ONLY be the capstone event at the end of the sentence imposed by the judge for the crime.  

    For more from a designated conservative of the republican party, visit http://dcon2012.wordpress.com.

    In Defense of Restorative Justice (none / 0) (#6)
    by K Smooth on Tue Dec 09, 2008 at 10:19:05 AM EST
    This proposal may look worse than it is because of inept reporting and LaGrand's stupid posturing.

    Part of restorative justice, as I understand it, is compensation for the victim by the perpetrator -- stolen goods returned, damage from vandalism repaired.  The key to the whole thing is that the victim has to agree for restorative justice to be applied.  It will be rare for a victim to agree to any of this without being made whole (and maybe a little more) first.

    In other words, if a thief drives off with my car, he can avoid prison but only with my approval.  Along with an apology I'm going to insist that he return the car, and pay for any damage to my car or garage.  At a minimum.  I may insist on some extra payment or a contribution to charity as well.  In other words the perp will get to avoid jail, but he's going to have to make it worth my while.

    La Grand doesn't help matters with his spacey "why me?" bit.  I know why me -- I have a nice car.  But the practical and spiritual benefits of having this available are very real even if LaGrande himself doesn't recognize them: prison costs are a real drag on the state's budget, so any time we can punish an offender without sending him or her to prison that's something we should look into.  The victim will be made whole, and some stupid kids will get a chance to undo the damage they've done and avoid having a criminal record.

    For anyone who cares... (none / 0) (#12)
    by Ed Burley on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 12:51:04 AM EST
    Here is Prison Fellowship's link for their restorative justice site.

    I would add that in most criminal cases, the perpetrator is tried for "crimes against the state," which is horse-squat most of the time. The crimes are usually committed against individuals - the supposed focus of conservative and libertarian politics. Restorative Justice corrects this injustice, and gets justice for the victims; in the form of restitution, repentance, forgiveness and reconciliation. This is a biblical way of "restoring all things," which, in case anyone missed it in the scriptures, was the purpose of Jesus' coming.

    So, here's the web link. Read it if you have a brain to think for yourself. However, if you are simply a nay-sayer who refuses to actually embrace individualism, and instead treat crime as a collectivist reality, don't bother.

    web link (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ed Burley on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 12:51:50 AM EST
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