I like politics alot, I dream of a system that works better. I've looked into 3rd party solutions that make alot of sense. but, I have found that getting your hopes up, and supporting them, is a wasted effort. We got two flavors of government. Democrat flavor or GOP flavor.

Either flavor is government overtaxing you, banks charging obscene interest, insurance and utilities taking whatever is left over.

The working class is just feeder fish, that get eatin alive by the banks, taxes, and the legal system, you work work work, but you get nowhere, and the system takes everything you have. There really is no hope for us.

Voting for Bob Barr would have still resulted in a Obama/democrat win.

My point exactly!  Obama was going to win no matter what!  Contrary to Established Opinion (as provided by pundits and party establishment) too, McCain never really had a chance, because in no uncertain terms, he's a flaming progressive!  Palin is the only reason he kept it as "close" he did.

So back to my statement that Republicans should have voted for Barr ...

We have established that a) McCain is not a conservative, and b) Obama was going to win no matter what.  So what does this tell us?

Every vote for McCain turned out to be a wasted vote!  In an election, it doesn't matter if you lose by 1 vote or by 10,000,000 votes.  The bottom line is - you lose.

The Republican Party (and I've been a registered Republican for 22 years) is not a political ideology or philosophy.  It is nothing more than a bureaucracy that aims to get votes.  This isn't a negative statement either, for example, a business exists to make a profit.

"We the people" are their target market.  They sell us politicians in return for votes.  As they should, they attempt to field politicians who will earn them our votes.  So just like a store does, they determine their best products based on what people are buying.

As "we the people" continue buying crappy politicians, we're sending the party a signal to keep giving us more crappy politicians.  Again, as they should!  It's how you stay in business.

But ... if "we the people" were to stop buying their crappy products (politicians), and/or they put one out there that failed miserably, they'd be forced to adjust to the market, thus offering us better products (politicians).

"Winning" is a strange word in politics to me.  I mean, if I vote for a politician with whom I fundamentally disagree with, and said politician wins the election ... What exactly is it that "I" won?

Where is the 3rd party solution [on healthcare reform]?

To be blunt, who cares?  I don't want a government "solution" to anything!  How long will it take, before "we the people" wake-up to the fact government "solutions" are always a failure?

(The coming Greater Depression will most likely drive this home).

To be fair, I didn't get a chance to read the Michigan GOP's "solution," because the above link no longer works and I couldn't find it via google.  So at this point, I can't be either for or against it.  But a good "solution" to me, would start with the words ...

We will repeal ...