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    Who are the NERD fund donors Mr Snyder?

    Raise the curtain.

    Which map do you prefer?

    Max Republican   3 votes - 37 %
    Incumbent Protection   5 votes - 62 %
     
    8 Total Votes
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    Interesting source for an app. (none / 0) (#1)
    by KG One on Sat Mar 26, 2011 at 11:53:54 PM EST
    Progressive Congress. Isn't that an oxymoron?

    On a serious note: I've already given my $0.02 on the whole VRA - Conyers/Clarke thing. Much like the constitutionality of Obamacare, I've yet been able to locate the exact language they use to justify this decision.

    If you want to drive a steak through the heart of the democrats, Wayne County is where it's at.

    You'll cause more consternation among them putting Conyers and Clarke head-to-head, rather than Levin and Peters.

    Kudos for pointing out an interesting link.

    Right now, I've got to go and make the donuts. But, I'll play around with this more later.

    *sigh*... (none / 0) (#2)
    by rdww on Sun Mar 27, 2011 at 12:00:20 AM EST
    "The Voting Rights Act, as interpreted by the courts, requires that black and Hispanic majority districts be drawn when reasonably possible"

    And the sad part is, we now accept such BS without the least outrage.


    • indeed.. by JGillman, 03/27/2011 09:59:15 AM EST (none / 0)
      • Only... by KG One, 03/27/2011 11:35:53 AM EST (none / 0)
    Addendum (none / 0) (#3)
    by Conservative First on Sun Mar 27, 2011 at 12:49:10 AM EST
    The computer chopped off the last sentence of the introduction.  It was supposed to say:

    "Drawing a map favorable to your party requires two basic things."

    Also, note that you can vote in the poll on the sidebar at right.

    KG One: (none / 0) (#4)
    by Conservative First on Sun Mar 27, 2011 at 01:20:25 AM EST
    I'm perfectly happy to use their tools against them.

    Even if you are right in principle on the VRA issue, it isn't worth the risk of having the whole map thrown out over that issue.

    I don't see Peters or Levin as any better than Conyers or Clarke.  That and the fact that Peters could have statewide potential means we might as well take him out now when there are no statewide offices to run for.

    Dave updated Michigan with 2010 numbers (none / 0) (#7)
    by Republican Michigander on Sun Mar 27, 2011 at 02:11:48 PM EST
    I'm working on a few things right now.
    Off the top of my head, that map is very dangerous for Camp and Rogers. Bay City has Jim Barcia, who  runs 10-20% ahead of most democrats. He is a former congressman who is well liked in those swing areas there (and the thumb).

    Rogers runs a lot better in Ingham County than he would in Ann Arbor.  

    Wow, a good option for me! (none / 0) (#8)
    by DrDetroit on Mon Mar 28, 2011 at 12:02:52 PM EST
    Wow, in option 2 I would dump Commie Peters and get a sane Congressman.

    Sign me up sign me up!

    Barcia and Rogers (none / 0) (#10)
    by Conservative First on Tue Mar 29, 2011 at 06:56:26 AM EST
    RM:

    The last time Barcia had a competitive race was 2002 state senate against Mike Green.  In that race, he lost Tuscola and Sanilac and narrowly won Huron.  His entire margin of about 20000 votes came from Bay.

    http://miboecfr.nicusa.com/election/results/02GEN/07031000.html

    I doubt any Republican would run well in Ann Arbor, but in the district I drew, it should be outvoted by Livingston, Lapeer, and north Oakland.

    Response to PB: (none / 0) (#11)
    by Conservative First on Tue Mar 29, 2011 at 07:13:45 AM EST
    Thanks for commenting, Peter.

    1. How does splitting Grand Rapids violate the Apol standards?  Strict population equality requires that there be breaks somewhere.  Right now, Solon Twp in Kent is split.  I don't see why it is better to split a township than split a city.

    2. The populations are as close as I could make them using the tools available.  The boundaries could be tweaked to make the populations exact, but the outline of the map is what I consider important.

    3. Bonior's old district and my proposed district are indeed similar.  Mine trades Roseville, Eastpointe, Mount Clemens area (D) for Sterling Heights (lean R).  Bonior's district was never all that democratic, and seems to have gotten more Republican since then.  Bonior held it due to incumbency, but only narrowly held off some less than top-tier challengers.


    • Thoughts by pbratt, 03/29/2011 10:11:15 AM EST (none / 0)
    • City Breaks by Conservative First, 03/30/2011 12:31:17 PM EST (none / 0)
    An interesting read over at the WAPO (none / 0) (#15)
    by JGillman on Thu Mar 31, 2011 at 09:04:49 AM EST
    Discussing Redistricting..

    And given that Republicans control the redistricting process, Demcorats should watch their backs, right?

    As it often is with redistricting, it might not be so simple.

    Much like in other big states, Republican gains in Michigan in 2010 make it virtually impossible for the party to add winnable seats in 2012 without severely risking the districts they currently hold. That's in spite of the fact that Republicans control all levers of the redistricting process in the Wolverine State.

    Posted as found including the author's 'Demcorats' Freudian slip

    Here's my take on that Washington Post article (none / 0) (#16)
    by Conservative First on Thu Mar 31, 2011 at 01:39:09 PM EST
    Washington Post Misleading on Michigan Redistricting

    http://wmugop.blogspot.com/2011/03/washington-post-misleading-on-michigan.html

     

    My 2¢ ...whether liked or not (none / 0) (#17)
    by Corinthian Scales on Thu Mar 31, 2011 at 03:14:36 PM EST
    Move the lines any which way you want.  Until Republicans stop voting like Democrats, all this redistricting is an exercise in futility.

    Two Michigan Republicans were amongst the 26 GOP "no" voters who could have broken the tie and won the vote for the "yes" side. All of the 210 "yes" votes were Republicans. The amendment had no Democrat support.

    The two Republicans from Michigan that voted "no" were Candice Miller, R-Harrison Twp., and Thad McCotter, R-Livonia.

    ....

    The offices of Miller and McCotter each received two email requests for comment but did not respond.

    Damned shame about Thaddy Mac.  Being a rah-rah hometown tool for the auto bailouts I can somewhat overlook, but this vote?  Nope.  Stick a fork in him, he's done in my book.

    Candice should be another lesson learned too.  Lot's of money and lines redrawn went into the creation of her dimwitted political career.


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