User talk:Anomie

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AnomieBOT appears to have stopped editing

Hi Brad - hope you're doing well. Just letting you know that AnomieBOT seems to have stopped editing as of about an hour ago. Any idea what the problem is? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 13:41, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

It appears that all of Tool Labs is down; there is mention on the mailing list that NFS is having trouble of some sort. Anomie⚔ 13:52, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Bot counting error?

What in the world happened here? Supposedly the guy has -1 deleted edits (according to the bot: 117 live edits, -1 deleted, so 116 total), so I suspect some sort of error; if it's correct, I'd love to know how one can get negative numbers of edits :-) Nyttend (talk) 02:18, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

The bot doesn't actually have access to the count of deleted edits. The edit count reported in Special:Preferences (which is also retrievable for any user via the API) includes both deleted and non-deleted edits though, so the bot can take that number and subtract the number of non-deleted edits (and also adjust for the dummy edits added by page moves and such, which don't increment the Special:Preferences count) to estimate the number of deleted edits.

In this case, probably what happened is that he made an edit between when the bot fetched his total edit count and when it counted his visible edits. Anomie⚔ 16:55, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you - task 71

Many thanks for the great job your bot is doing, creating talk page redirects for template documentation, etc. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:27, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

exceptions

Hi,

How do i get Anomie (not sure which bot) to not do this?[1]

— kwami (talk) 03:32, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

That wasn't a bot. That was Anomie the human. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that was me the human cleaning up a problem you caused by copying-and-pasting a template into the article. I won't revert your reverts, but remember that the reason we have maintenance templates is to avoid confusing less-technical users by putting large blobs of code in the article like that. At the very least, go fix the fact that all those articles are back in Category:Articles with invalid date parameter in template. Anomie⚔ 13:01, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Okay, fixing the dates. I'll be happy to use the template if it will support what we need to say, that there's a commonly cited ref that's being used but is inadequate. — kwami (talk) 20:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Would it be acceptable to you if {{Refimprove|reason=Blah blah blah.}} displayed text along the lines of "This article needs additional citations for verification. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Blah blah blah. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed.", or something along those lines? Anomie⚔ 00:38, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that nearly everyone will come up with the same source, and since it's UNESCO, people tend to think it's reliable. I wanted a specific warning that Unesco is not reliable, and that we need to confirm it with independent sources. — kwami (talk) 00:15, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

T: template redirects

Hi, you participated in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 December 29#T:, some of which I have relisted at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November_18#T:WPTECH. Please come along and share your thoughts .. ;-) John Vandenberg ^(chat) 15:39, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

wikt:Wiktionary:Grease pit/2013/November#Module:languages

Hi anomie,

If you have the time and inclination, your input would be welcome at wikt:Wiktionary:Grease pit/2013/November#Module:languages, where we are discussing reorganizing our language metadata. (Qgil named you and Ori.livneh as good people to ask "about modules and performance".)

Thanks in advance!
—Ruakh_TALK
22:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

It seems like you all have it well in hand there: putting "stable" widely-used languages in one module and the "unstable" less-widely used languages in another (or multiple others), so editing one of the unstable language's modules doesn't add 92% of the pages on the wiki to the job queue, is a great idea. Feel free to ping me if you want code review of a prototype implementation, or if you get stuck on something and need suggestions. Anomie⚔ 02:30, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I've passed that on. —Ruakh_TALK 21:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Minor barnstar
	Thanks ever so much for User:AnomieBOT. It's most awesome in its rescuing of orphaned refs! :) — Cirt (talk) 06:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar! Anomie⚔ 02:57, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

watchlist-change-style-selector

Hello Anomie,

I have been trying to figure out why the green bullets for changed entries would not display in my watchlist, and I finally figured out that the "Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist" setting in my preferences was the cause. I stumbled upon your script and hoped that it would allow the display of bullets on that version of the watchlist, but no, they still won't display unless I change my preferences. Do you know of any way to enable the bullets with the enhanced watchlist? (I'm using Vector.) Thanks! ​—DoRD (talk)​ 17:28, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

The problem there is that there isn't a bullet to turn green. You could try targeting table.mw-changeslist-line-watched .mw-collapsible-arrow.mw-collapsible-toggle-collapsed and table.mw-changeslist-line-watched .mw-collapsible-arrow.mw-collapsible-toggle-expanded to turn the arrow green instead; you might want to propose that at MediaWiki talk:Vector.css since there are probably other people with your issue. Anomie⚔ 21:36, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

You are proudly presented with...

The Einstein Robot Barnstar of Genius

I hereby award this to Anomie, not just for being very clever and for helping me fix Module:Random, but also for the tireless work he does helping people with technical issues around the project, for his outstanding bot work with AnomieBOT and friends, and for his skillful contributions to the MediaWiki software. You are a great benefit to this project - thank you! — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:02, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

The Einstein Robot Barnstar? Wow! Thanks! Anomie⚔ 01:22, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

I thought that you needed a new barnstar, seeing as you have most of the others already. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 03:10, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Super Nintendo Entertainment System

This article needs improvement. There have been random changes that may affect the page's Featured Article status. Soon I'll nominate it for FA Review if issues aren't resolved. George Ho (talk) 07:35, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Why don't you wait until people are done with Sega Genesis and see if they want to help? Even though one of them is responsible for me giving up on the SNES article, by pushing various pro-Sega edits. I've already suggested to ‎Red Phoenix that that would be an idea for his next project.

BTW, I disagree with your concern that the current article's title is "too precise". We have redirects from the various abbreviated titles people tend to use. Anomie⚔ 13:08, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Now that Sega Genesis is now the FA, SNES should be reworked. --George Ho (talk) 06:57, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Let people enjoy the holidays. Anomie⚔ 11:54, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Edittools on commons

Hi Anomie, and thanks for the help at the Pump! Now I'm going to get greedy, so please wave me off if you're not feeling indulgent...I recently tried to add a tool in Commons by creating a custom JavaScript page there and mimicking the code from my page here on en.wp. But I don't have to swim out far to be over my head, and I can't get the tool to appear. Would you have any idea if my approach is valid on Commons? Thanks in advance. Eric ^talk 14:36, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't have any idea if anything similar exists on Commons, or how it might work if it does. Sorry. Anomie⚔ 18:01, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

No prob, thanks again for your help! Eric ^talk 20:59, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Re: SNES audio

I told my friend about what you said, then he remembered, and said that while the SNES was capable of producing 16-bit audio, many games downsampled it to 8-bit to save on cartridge space. Thanks for the information! 24.144.170.57 (talk) 19:53, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

File:File-WikiProject Medicine - Dermatology task force - Articles created.svg

Can you add {{esoteric file}} to the code placed by the bot when this file is updated?Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:11, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Template sandbox user script

Now that my changes to template sandbox went live here, I threw together a script to use the features. It's at User:Jackmcbarn/advancedtemplatesandbox.js if you have any interest. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:40, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

I'll try to have a look at it later. Anomie⚔ 13:43, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas from Cyberpower678

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Happy New Year Anomie!

	Happy New Year!
	Hello Anomie: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Frze > talk 20:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2014}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

Bot for pages that transclude Template:Infobox settlement

For articles that use Template:Infobox settlement I found

• that often coordinates exists in the page in Template:Coor but not in the Infobox, preventing display of a map [2] - a bot could here also check the field pushpin_map
• the formatting of the template confusing, e.g.
  • subdivision_name1 placed away from the other subdivision_-parameters [3]
  • alignment of "=" only partial
  • line breaks sometimes after, sometimes before |
• the template sometimes called via "Infobox settlement", sometimes via "Infobox Settlement", making it show up split at Wikipedia:Database reports/Templates transcluded on the most pages as "340756" and "20131", hiding some of the importance it has. The real number is somewhere between 340756 and the 402,500 which is shown on the template page as "This template is used on 402,500+ pages.", since the latter may include transclusions. A bot could remove the redirects and then a more correct number for the infobox would be shown at the DB report page.
• the value in the field settlement_type sometimes is linked, sometimes not.
• many articles miss the template [4]

Probably with some bot work, this template could soon be directly included in 500000 article pages, and not so far on 1 million, as many places don't have a page in the English Wikipedia yet. Special tools could later be used to better exchange data with WikiData.

What to do first? I suggest working on

• those ~1000 that use Infobox City and are from Spain [5]. Infobox City is a redirect to Infobox settlement. I checked several of these, and they have
  • the pipe symbol not in front of the field name
  • coordinates, but not in the Infobox
  • ", Spain" appearing in the name field, which could be removed
  • miss the field settlement_type and the value, so adding the field alone already saves edit time of editors
  • One edit as example.
  • have subdivision_...3 whilst that is the article itself

Androoox (talk) 10:19, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

You might want to take this to WP:BOTREQ instead. But I note the following:

• The rearrangement of parameters, the alignment of =, and the positioning and indenting of | in template transclusions is generally considered cosmetic and not by itself a reason to edit the page. And even if other changes are being made at the same time, it generally needs a good consensus that this "cleanup" is actually desired and that the particular cleanup is what people want.
• Redirects are not a problem. If an article transcludes a redirect, MediaWiki records it as both a transclusion of the redirect and of the redirect target. Which means that 340756 probably is the correct number.
• Infoboxes are sometimes controversial, and bot-adding of infoboxes more so. You'd need consensus that adding a mostly-empty infobox to some set of articles is actually desired, plus botable criteria for identifying such articles.

HTH. Anomie⚔ 12:55, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

No, that does not help. To move coordinate parameters and placement of | by hand is stupid. Also "Redirects are a problem", since as an article editor inside the edit box one does not see whether a template link is a redirect or refers to a different template. Furthermore from WikiData it is clear whether something is an article that is suited to have the Infobox settlement, if in WikiData it is a village, city, province etc. Androoox (talk) 18:25, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Hope all is well,

Could you give the CHUUclerk a shove? Thanks! –xeno^talk 16:53, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Apparently something in 1.23wmf9 changed how MediaWiki handled passing an empty username to list=usercontribs. This should fix things for the moment. Anomie⚔ 18:13, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I think that might've been my fix'en of that req. Thanks for finding the error! –xeno^talk 16:33, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

No, it was this edit not by you. Anomie⚔ 18:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a user manual, Nordic Walking

Hello Anomie!

You recently deleted my edits done to the Nordic Walking wikipedia article. What I wanted to point out was that, these are the first academic materials of nordic walking ever to have existed. I put them up there, because there seems to be quite a lot of controversy surrounding the origin of nordic walking. With no materials to see, how can people rely on the claim made? I mean, yes, they are available in Finnish, but I took the time to translate them. Is there anyway we could still use those? Perhaps under Mauri Repo's Wiki article or in some other manner? A redirect somewhere? Thank you in advance, 90.191.79.11 (talk) 13:39, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Forgot that I hadn't logged in. KMuuli (talk) 13:40, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

The edits I reverted were adding a large quantity of "how to do Nordic Walking" information that doesn't really have a place in Wikipedia. If you are faithfully translating a source that is available under an appropriately free license, you may want to look at Wikisource; I'd suggest starting with Wikisource:Copyright policy to see if your source qualifies. Anomie⚔ 18:16, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

So this https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Hiihdon_lajiosa is the solution I derived from the information you gave me. Do you think it will hold? Also, I'm having some trouble redirecting it from Wikipedia to Wikisource.KMuuli (talk) 10:17, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

EthicalBot BRFA

I'm on mobile now. Since I value your and other's comments, I ask you to close the BRFA as withdrawn by candidate instead of speedy decline. By the way, can I make 20 edits with the bot software and then review it after the edits are done with my primary account? Thanks. Ethically ^(Yours) 17:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

No, the bot account may not edit articles without being approved to make those edits. You may make edits that were prepared by the bot software from your own account (User:Ethically Yours) if you first review each one and make sure that it is a good edit (i.e. don't blindly hit "save"). Anomie⚔ 20:06, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Edittools

Hi Anomie,

Could you make the two changes I requested at the bottom of the talk page? It's been a month, and no-one's responded.

Thanks, — kwami (talk) 00:12, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Project tagging

I need all the new articles in categories (but not subcategories) listed at WP:CHIBOTCATS to be tagged with {{WikiProject Chicago}}.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:50, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

It looks like that list needs some cleanup. Also, define "new articles" (is that just "any article not already tagged"?), and specify whether you want assessments copied from any other projects' banners. Anomie⚔ 01:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean by cleanup? Yes new articles means untagged articles in these categories (but not subcategories)? Yes auto-assess when possible? Also is it possible to check and make sure that no article has FA, GA or FL in other tags and not ours?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:50, 20 January 2014 (UTC)