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    The Convoluted Mess Of The NRA


    By JGillman, Section News
    Posted on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 02:25:11 PM EST
    Tags: NRA, Gun rights, 2nd Amendment, Endorsements, Nevada, Sharon Angle, Harry Reid, Michigan, Bart Stupak (all tags)

    Recently many of you might have heard about the possibility of the NRA actually endorsing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid over the Republican (Tea Party) Candidate, Sharon Angle.  Surprisingly, the rumor might have some weight to it, and even though Reid's overall record has been anti second amendment, they would still offer him as a possible candidate for their (sometimes) coveted approval.

    A by-his-very-nature anti 2nd amendment guy  over a NATURAL 2nd amendment candidate? They have a reason, but sadly they have quite contradictory reasoning to apply it.

    Lets look at a local endorsement they had given.

    In October 2008, Stupak received the endorsement of the NRA, which has repeatedly shown favoritism for entrenched politicians vs. their opposition candidates, and risking the "Ire" of the likely winning incumbents.

    Remember this, as we read more... below the fold.

    Being the relative political neophyte that I am, I would have assumed the support of a CLEARLY PRO SECOND AMENDMENT Sharon angle in the Nevada election cycle.   I could hardly imagine Reid, who has so many Allys of anti gun stature would even be considered by the NRA for such an ..honor.

    So I wrote them a letter:

    "I was recently contacted by your call centers to join the NRA..  I am as active politically as ever, and unfortunately they caught me at a bad time where I literally don't have $20 to spend.

    I have defended the NRA against fake groups such as the hunter/shooter guy in my articles, and had minor issues with the NRA other times.

    In my view the NRA has done a decent job defending gun rights..  but it concerns me greatly, that I am hearing about a possible Harry Reid endorsement?

    IF that is the case, I would NEVER join, and would use the power of my pen to assure that all gun owners know his anti gun record, all the while associating the endorsement of the NRA.

    Respectfully, ..."

    I am fairly certain the following is a form response letter, but it answers even more than I am asking:

    "Thank you for contacting the NRA-ILA regarding recent reports that the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) has endorsed U.S. Senator Harry Reid for reelection.  

    For the record, the NRA-PVF has not yet made an endorsement in the Nevada U.S. Senate race.  In fact, there have been no announced endorsements for any U.S. Senate seat for the November general elections--period.

    For several reasons, we generally do not announce ratings or endorsements until closer to the elections. There are still votes to be graded and other information to be evaluated prior to issuing an accurate grade as Election Day nears.

    The NRA-PVF looks at the entirety of a candidate's record.  We start with the candidate's voting record (if any), along with answers to questionnaires, statements and floor speeches the candidate makes on Second Amendment issues, as well as any action the candidate may have taken as a committee member or leader.

    Our endorsements are not given lightly, nor are they issued in every race.  An NRA-PVF endorsement is something that has to be earned.  As we do every election year, we wait until all the votes are taken and evaluate a candidate's entire record.  Making a decision prematurely, before votes are taken, risks giving politicians a "free pass"--something we can't and won't allow.

    It is important to note that the NRA is a single-issue organization. Our ratings and endorsements are based solely on a candidate's support for, or opposition to, our Second Amendment rights. Other issues, as important as they may be to many people, do not and cannot play any role in those decisions.  NRA represents a broad coalition of American gun owners, who are bound together by their support for the right to keep and bear arms.

    For us to factor non-gun-related issues into our ratings would foolishly divide our unified base of support on the Second Amendment.  This policy has served NRA and gun owners well over the past three-plus decades, making us the nation's pre-eminent pro-Second Amendment advocacy group.  

    We fully understand that voters must take into account a variety of issues when deciding for whom to vote.  We respect that.  It is our responsibility, however, to provide voters with information solely on a candidate's position on gun-related issues so that they may factor that consideration in addition to other issues.
    Admittedly, Senator Reid's record is not perfect; few politicians' records are.   For a number of years (primarily in the 1990s) Sen. Reid had some problematic votes on our issue.  But in the last five years, he has dramatically improved his record on our issue, so the NRA-PVF would be irresponsible if it did not give due consideration to those recent votes and actions.  There is no doubt that, as Senate Majority Leader, Reid has supported efforts to protect Americans' gun rights, both by voting FOR pro-gun measures AND preventing anti-gun legislation from reaching the Senate floor.

    In 2004, Sen. Reid voted against efforts to reauthorize the Clinton ban on "assault weapons" and ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, which are standard equipment for many rifles and for most modern semi-automatic pistols designed for defensive use. Early last year, he  flatly stated he would oppose any effort to reinstate an "assault weapon" and magazine ban if the Senate were to vote on it in the future.  In 2005, Sen. Reid was instrumental in Senate passage (and eventual enactment into law) of the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" (PLCAA). That law shut down reckless lawsuits against gun manufacturers and dealers, which attempted to hold them liable for the misuse of firearms by criminals.  Sen. Reid also cosponsored the PLCAA in the previous Congress and voted against the Feinstein Amendment to ban "assault weapons" and  "large" magazines, and the Kennedy Amendment that would have banned most hunting ammunition.

    Sen. Reid voted for legislation, which became law in 2006, to prohibit gun confiscation during states of emergency.  He also voted for legislation to allow commercial airline pilots to be armed in the cockpit to protect their passengers and crews .  

    In the last two years, Sen. Reid voted for the Ensign Amendment to repeal the Washington D.C. gun ban and restore self-defense rights in our nation's capital.  He cosponsored similar legislation -- S.1414 -- in the 108th Congress.  He also voted for an amendment to allow law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-defense in national parks and wildlife refuges.  This federal policy change took effect on February 22.  In addition, Sen. Reid voted last year for the Thune-Vitter Amendment to provide national reciprocity for state Right-to-Carry permits.  Sen. Reid also voted twice for the Wicker Amendment allowing Amtrak passengers to include firearms in their checked luggage.  In his capacity as Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid made votes on all of these amendments procedurally possible.  And these are but a few examples of Senator Reid's support and leadership on Second Amendment issues.

    All of which leads to a very serious question for all NRA members and gun owners who oppose Sen. Reid to contemplate: who would take Reid's place if he loses his race--and his critically important position as Senate Majority Leader?  Remember, the Senate Majority Leader is the gatekeeper who decides which legislation will be considered on the Senate floor.  If Sen. Reid loses, the next candidate for Majority Leader is very likely to be Charles Schumer of New York or Dick Durbin of Illinois --two of the most anti-gun U.S. Senators in history!  

    It is critical to the defense of the Second Amendment that we have pro-gun majorities in the U.S. Congress.  

    While no endorsement has yet been issued in this race, nor any other U.S. Senate race for the November general election, rest assured that we will make all of these announcements at the appropriate time and in light of our election policy.  

    Thank you for contacting us and please keep an eye out for our grades and endorsements as the election nears."

    OK..  First off, it is an endorsement in a slight of hand manner.  It suggests that removing Reid would result in the majority position being given to the openly anti gun folks who are Harry's political twins.  so the NRA is concerned about the majority leader's position, but not the process that gets the majority leader there?

    Further, the NRA suggests they are a SINGLE issue advocate.  So why could they not have a single prerequisite for receiving approval.  Vetting shouldn't be so ...political I would think. (remember ..neophyte me)  Yes or No Harry.  Yes or No Sharon.

    In the end, the NRA would support a Michigan congressman Bart Stupak, who carries with him the power of assisting majorities that OPPOSE gun rights into controlling positions over a candidate who brings with HIM a solid bench of gun rights advocates.

    They worry about the leadership in one camp, yet forget how they affect it in another? Why do they exist again?  Why bother when they fight themselves?

    Perhaps the youth gun safety educational aspect of their own program ought to be considered by the NRA leadership..  It seems they are poised to shoot themselves in the foot.

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    The NRA is a loser anyways (none / 0) (#1)
    by jgillmanjr on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 03:04:32 PM EST
    Look at their support for Project Exile, as well as their support for the abrogation of private property rights with their distorted view that somehow the 2nd Amendment applies to private organizations.

    One of the sportsmen's clubs I belong to (none / 0) (#2)
    by RushLake on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 09:53:28 AM EST
    requires NRA membership in order to be a member in good standing. I shall miss the Western Wayne County Conservation Association.

    That's not even the half of it. (none / 0) (#3)
    by KG One on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 06:47:58 PM EST
    The NRA recent got caught in bed (again) with the democratic party with yet another campaign finance bill.


    "On Monday, POLITICO revealed the result of the negotiations: an amendment to the bill that would exempt from the disclosure requirements organizations that have more than 1 million members, have been in existence for more than 10 years, have members in all 50 states and raise 15 percent or less of their funds from corporations.

    Though House Democratic sources say the goal was to exempt a handful of the biggest and most well-established advocacy groups, it turned out that only the NRA met all the criteria."

    President Heston is rolling in his grave right about now.

    GOA or MCRGO, anyone?

    • Not MCRGO by Republican Michigander, 07/09/2010 02:04:13 PM EST (none / 0)
    The NRA? (none / 0) (#4)
    by Corinthian Scales on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 08:08:56 AM EST
    Nope.  Today, the NRA, which I don't even recognize what it used to stand for is just as sleazy as AARP.

    Only a fool would be a member of either.

    That's why I've been a proud member of the GOA since November 3, 1992 when BJ Clinton was elected to Office.

    Yep, there were 44,909,806 @ssholes living in America in '92 just as there are 69,456,897 @ssholes living in America today.

    SAFR? (none / 0) (#6)
    by RushLake on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 07:17:29 PM EST
    Republican Michigander, I'm not finding SAFR in a web search. Please spell it out. Thanks,

    NRA (none / 0) (#9)
    by Sway21 on Sun Jul 11, 2010 at 02:47:21 PM EST
    The NRA is making the same mistake that Big Medicine and Big Pharma made; believing that they can negotiate their own partisan interests with a Democrat congress and come out with clean hands.  And, in the NRA's case, you cannot pursue a Second Amendment advocacy without reference to the rest of the Constitution.  The NRA is foolish to not recognize where their larger interests lay and they'll end up feeling like the frog with the scorpion atop.

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